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Can chatting help prevent terrorism? TSA's new 'talk tactic' policy
MSNBC ^ | 29 Dec 2005 | Scarborough Country

Posted on 01/03/2006 10:54:05 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast

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This is excellent news for aviation safety.

It will also be familiar to anyone who's flown out of Tel Aviv. There's a whole interview process there, involving at least two ostentatiously armed security professionals talking with you simultaneously. They ask about your stay, who you met, what you bought, etc etc, minding your body language at all times. It's rather interesting to watch their eyes watching yours. And the process is extraordinarily effective.

Of course, the Israelis back this up with some very rigorous training into the psychophysics of body language and subconscious behavior. TSA is mistaken if they feel any baggage checker can jump right into this. And they're doubly mistaken if this presages a resumption of those silly "Have your bags always been in your possession?" questions they used to ask, usually in a bored monotone.

Also, I hadn't previously heard the 20th-hijacker tale related herein.

1 posted on 01/03/2006 10:54:06 AM PST by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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I would agree that this was good news if not for the fact that the TSA has in its employ so many people who actually make me wish they were on welfare, they are so unprofessional, incompetent, and sloppy. Their boorish appearance and lack of mastery of even basic English will prohibit them from carrying this out effectively.


2 posted on 01/03/2006 10:59:29 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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Reminds me of when I flew into Moscow in the early 80's. I had to stand in a sort of airlock type place with mirrors behind me. The soldier in the booth kept staring at me, at my passport and visa, back at me, picked up the phone made a call (probably to his wife or something!), stared me down some more. It made me pretty nervous even though I was there simpy to join a bicycle tour (the rest of whom were all on a different flight). By the time I was allowed in I was sweating bullets and needed a beer big time!


3 posted on 01/03/2006 11:02:01 AM PST by Cementjungle
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Well thank God the press is announcing more of our counter terrorism tactics. We wouldn't want the enemy to be caught off guard.


4 posted on 01/03/2006 11:04:47 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Well thank God the press is announcing more of our counter terrorism tactics. We wouldn't want the enemy to be caught off guard.


5 posted on 01/03/2006 11:04:54 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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Why does it do that? Post twice.


6 posted on 01/03/2006 11:06:22 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Not today.)
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Just to keep you on your toes...


7 posted on 01/03/2006 11:08:07 AM PST by null and void (A fanatic is one who won't change his mind and won't change the subject - Churchill)
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To: AbeKrieger

TSA = Thousands Standing Around


8 posted on 01/03/2006 11:10:56 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim ("We're a meat-based society.")
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I simply want my Bick cigarette lighter back, and then these idiots can ask me all the questions that they desire.

Tomorrow, my wife and I will be flying to Mexico for our two weeks of vacation. Trying to obey all of the stupid TSA regulations is almost impossible, but we are trying our best to comply. Not a single one of their regulations will make our flight any safer, and I have no idea who they are trying to fool.

9 posted on 01/03/2006 11:13:34 AM PST by Hunble (a)
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the TSA has in its employ so many people who actually make me wish they were on welfare

They are. They just have to punch a clock to get their check.

10 posted on 01/03/2006 11:15:47 AM PST by IronJack
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"Hello, sir."
"Urrfffgh."
"Nice coat you have there. You need a goods coat on a cold day like this, am I right?"
"Urrfffgh."
"Boy, this lines are pain, aren't they? Lotta people here, I tell ya."
"Soon, I will fix that! You American pigs will all die! Allah will have vengeance on you for your wicked ways!!!"
"Sounds like somebody's depressed about the Patriots game. It was a rough second half, am I right? Next! Move along sir, have a nice flight."
11 posted on 01/03/2006 11:17:11 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Don't you know? al Qaeda will protect Freedom of the Press and Freedom of Religion, when they take over.
12 posted on 01/03/2006 11:31:05 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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Also, I hadn't previously heard the 20th-hijacker tale related herein.

Yes, we might not have a Capitol if Atta hadn't made a rare tactical blunder and tried to bring in one of the musclemen through Orlando. What he hadn't counted on was that Orlando immigrations had plenty of experience with Saudis coming through on their way to Disney World.

As a result, they didn't buy the henchman's story, especially the part where he claimed to have no money.

Atta can be seen pacing arount the arrivals area, making phone calls (too bad the NSA didn't monitor...) and finally leaving when he realizes that his henchman isn't going to be allowed into the country.

It's in the 9/11 report.

13 posted on 01/03/2006 11:34:01 AM PST by hedgie
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Even though you don't see your comment on the thread, it's there. Just check the ping page. If your comment is there, it is posted. Don't click post again.


14 posted on 01/03/2006 11:35:08 AM PST by aligncare (Watergate killed journalism)
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Were you able to pick up any Soviet-era souvenirs?
15 posted on 01/03/2006 11:52:35 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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"I would agree that this was good news if not for the fact that the TSA has in its employ so many people who actually make me wish they were on welfare, they are so unprofessional, incompetent, and sloppy. Their boorish appearance and lack of mastery of even basic English will prohibit them from carrying this out effectively."




Wow! We must be flying through different airports. All of the TSA types at the airports I've flown through in the past year have been competent, businesslike, and polite.

What airport are you flying out of or into where you see the behavior you describe? I'll avoid it.

Or, perhaps you don't fly much at all. Or, perhaps you're recalling the pre-TSA security folks...the ones hired by some contractor to do security.

I just can't tell which it is. I can tell you, though, that I've seen nothing of the sort, and I fly a lot.


16 posted on 01/03/2006 11:52:44 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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"Tomorrow, my wife and I will be flying to Mexico for our two weeks of vacation. Trying to obey all of the stupid TSA regulations is almost impossible, but we are trying our best to comply. Not a single one of their regulations will make our flight any safer, and I have no idea who they are trying to fool."




Oh, it's not that hard to follow the regulations. No weapons, or things that could be used as weapons. You'll have to leave the Bic at home, but....you can take matches and buy a shiny new Bic in Mexico. They have them there, you know.

Enjoy your vacation, and stop stressing over what is not a big deal. You'll do fine.


17 posted on 01/03/2006 11:54:31 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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What airport are you flying out of or into where you see the behavior you describe? I'll avoid it.

Philadelphia and Chicago. Philly might just be the worst.

18 posted on 01/03/2006 11:57:09 AM PST by AbeKrieger (Islam is the virus that causes al-Qaeda.)
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The funny thing here is that this chatting business is going to lead a lot of disgruntled travellers into some extra searches. From the comments here on Free Republic on threads about the TSA, it seems that there are some definite chips on some folks shoulders when they get to the airport.

A little attitude will now get you wanded or patted down, I'm sure. Me? I'll just continue to smile at the TSA folks and breeze through the checkpoint like I've always done. I don't buzz in the metal detector. There's nothing in my carry-on that will bother anyone, and I've learned that the shoes I wear have metal stiffeners in the soles, so I just put them on the belt.

I discovered that I can buy a new Bic lighter at the first convenience store, that matches will light my cigarette just fine, and that I really don't HAVE to have my Oldtimer stockman's knife in my pocket until I get my luggage. I don't really need a bunch of coins in my pockets. I've never carried scissors, so that one never bothered me in the first place.

Yup, all you perpetually ticked-off folks...show that attitude in the airport. I'll watch while they wand you and pat you down.


19 posted on 01/03/2006 11:59:55 AM PST by MineralMan (godless atheist)
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http://www.cbp.gov/xp/CustomsToday/2004/JanFeb/

Interesting story about how an alert INS agent thwarted at least one small part of Mohammed Atta's hijacking team.


20 posted on 01/03/2006 12:02:15 PM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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