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Mexico demands US probe fatal border shooting
reuters ^ | Mon Jan 2, 2006 | Mon Jan 2, 2006

Posted on 01/02/2006 3:32:19 PM PST by Icelander

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico demanded a U.S. investigation on Monday into the death of an undocumented Mexican shot by a U.S. Border Patrol agent as he tried to cross into California last week.

Raul Martinez, a spokesman for the U.S. Border Patrol in San Diego, confirmed that an agent had fired on a man on Friday as he tried to cross the border near San Diego, after the would-be immigrant had thrown rocks at him.

The unidentified man crossed back into Mexico, where he later died of his injuries in a hospital.

"The Mexican government is demanding an investigation of the facts," presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said at a news conference.

The shooting came weeks after a U.S. lawmaker proposed a controversial plan to fortify part of the U.S.-Mexico border with a high-tech wall to stop illegal immigrants.

The move was slammed by the Mexican government, which has long sought an agreement with Washington to formalize the status of millions of Mexicans living illegally in the United States and regulate the flow of immigrants heading north.

The shooting "shows once again that only a law that guarantees organized, legal and respectful entry (to the United States) can solve the problems posed by migration," Aguilar said.

Each year, an unknown number of Mexicans attempt to cross the deserts and rivers marking the 2,000-mile (3,200-km) border in search of work in the United States.

The U.S. Border Patrol arrested almost 1.2 million undocumented immigrants making the journey last year, while at least 464 died en route, many of heat exposure.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Mexico
KEYWORDS: aliens; bananarepublic; bfd; borderpatrol; borders; dilligaf; fabom; fence; illegal; immigrantlist; narcodemocracy; wgaf
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To: Icelander

Contact the mexican embassy: http://portal.sre.gob.mx/usa/index.php?option=contact&Itemid=6


21 posted on 01/02/2006 4:36:07 PM PST by mirkwood ("Americans never quit"--MacArthur)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran
Bump on the tent city, surrounded by barbed wire and hungry dogs.
22 posted on 01/02/2006 4:36:18 PM PST by rodguy911 (Support Able Danger and Lt.Col Shaffer,Condi Rice/VP in 08--)
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To: Icelander

Huh? you gotta be kidding! What about the dozens of Americans missing in Mexico?


23 posted on 01/02/2006 4:37:40 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: Icelander
Mexico demands US probe fatal border shooting

A probe you say? Yep, he's dead, Jim.


24 posted on 01/02/2006 5:31:54 PM PST by infidel29 ("We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." --Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Icelander

"Mexico demands US probe fatal border shooting" and if we don't your going to do...what?


25 posted on 01/02/2006 5:33:29 PM PST by Lancer_N3502A
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To: Icelander; Stellar Dendrite; NRA2BFree; Happy2BMe; Spiff; Pelham; Das Outsider; moehoward; ...
*PING*

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico demanded a U.S. investigation on Monday into the death of an undocumented Mexican shot by a U.S. Border Patrol agent as he tried to cross into California last week.

Get it right...he's an ILLEGAL INFILTRATOR

Raul Martinez, a spokesman for the U.S. Border Patrol in San Diego, confirmed that an agent had fired on a man on Friday as he tried to cross the border near San Diego, after the would-be immigrant had thrown rocks at him.

Lesson 1)...never bring a rock to a gunfight.

The unidentified man crossed back into Mexico, where he later died of his injuries in a hospital.

Gee...even in Mexico he's an "unidentified" resident!

snip...

The shooting "shows once again that only a law that guarantees organized, legal and respectful entry (to the United States) can solve the problems posed by migration," Aguilar said.

Or...in a saner reality...it shows that we will no longer allow your ILLEGALS (who are REALLY unwanted in Mexico by their own Racist, Eeee-litists in charge, btw!) to play PaleSimians...and throw rocks at US Border Agents and our Law Enforcement officers and equipment, never expecting ANY form of punishment or retaliation.

That thinking is so pre-9/11, and also so Pre Tom Tancredo...Mexico is still "Stuck On Stupid"...and that would be the current policies out of La Hacienda Blanco!

26 posted on 01/02/2006 5:35:05 PM PST by Itzlzha ("The avalanche has already started...it is too late for the pebbles to vote")
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To: kublia khan

A fast trip down to Sasabe will let you see thousands come through the border station to collect their checks at the US post office.


28 posted on 01/02/2006 5:44:41 PM PST by Old Flat Toad (Pima County, home of the single vehicle accident with 40 victims.)
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To: SandRat

MAN that takes balls. Now we will investigate 1200 Mexicans who shot at us!


29 posted on 01/02/2006 5:48:57 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Sterco

Ammo Bump!


30 posted on 01/02/2006 5:50:15 PM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all our troops at home and abroad!!)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
So, in order to prevent this from happening again, we need to move the border fence forward approximately ... how much?

Monterrey?
31 posted on 01/02/2006 5:53:44 PM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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To: Icelander

Mexico is becoming desperate.


32 posted on 01/02/2006 5:53:58 PM PST by SealSeven (Moving at the speed of dark.... Even "nothing" takes up space.)
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To: Icelander; Eaker; Flyer
"The Mexican government is demanding an investigation of the facts," presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said at a news conference.

I love it when they demand stuff.

Someone should send Ruben Aguilar a ballistics chart.

Them's facts.

33 posted on 01/02/2006 5:57:34 PM PST by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: Izzy Dunne

They just come here to throw the rocks that U.S. citizens won't throw.""

We haven't been trained yet??


34 posted on 01/02/2006 5:58:06 PM PST by ridesthemiles (ridesthemiles)
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To: Icelander
"The Mexican government is demanding an investigation of the facts," presidential spokesman Ruben Aguilar said at a news conference.

Investigate THIS, Ruben! The arrogance of Mexico is outrageous. Tens of millions of Mexicans have sneaked over our border, and they expect us to sit back and take it with a smile.

Come to think of it, that's exactly what our "leaders" have done. Cowards.

35 posted on 01/02/2006 6:08:55 PM PST by janetgreen
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To: humblegunner
Them's facts.

Yep, them are.

Mexico's army has one tank.

They tow it with donkeys in parades.

They might want to watch their collective butts.

36 posted on 01/02/2006 6:20:05 PM PST by Eaker (My Wife Rocks! - I will never take Dix or El Roy off of my ping list.)
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To: Icelander

I have some well thought out words for the mexican government, F**K OFF. This is none of your business and if you would do more to keep people on your side of the border this guy might still be alive.


37 posted on 01/02/2006 6:21:17 PM PST by calex59
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To: Icelander
The shooting "shows once again that only a law that guarantees organized, legal and respectful entry (to the United States) can solve the problems posed by migration," Aguilar said.DS

Yes, we agree, we call it "legal immigration".

38 posted on 01/02/2006 6:25:16 PM PST by oldbrowser (No matter how cynical I get, I can't seem to keep up)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network; planekT; HiJinx; gubamyster; dennisw
So, in order to prevent this from happening again, we need to move the border fence forward approximately ... how much?

A quick tutorial may be in order here.

This is what most of our southern border looks like: there is no government-built fence at all. There is often just whatever is left over from some forgotten cattle fence, built privately to keep U.S. cattle from wandering freely into Mexico. For hundreds of miles there is not even a broken cattle fence, there is nothing at all.

For comparison, below the broken cattle fence photo is a sample of an inexpensive but highly effective double border fence system, with a plowed strip to reveal footprints. This type of system is very cheap and can be built with great speed.

Here is what some of San Diego County has: a wall made of rusty Viet Nam-era runway mats. The corrugations are even horizontal, (to make climbing easier?) The illegals in this photo were spotted by unexpected civilian volunteers, and jumped back over the border.

Here is what the border looks like where the runway mat wall exists. Mexico begins on the other side of the ineffective rusty wall, which actually helps the smugglers, by hiding their movements until the occasional USBP vehicle has driven out of sight.

This is how "the game" is played. Smugglers hide on the other side of the wall with their dope and/or their illegals, out of sight of the USBP. They wait for the highly visible white BP vehicle to drive over the distant hills. Lookouts with cell phones and walkie-talkies report on the current locations of the BP units. They know with certainty that "the coast is clear" for an hour or two, and the smugglers and illegals hop the fence and run into the scrub only 50 yards away. From there, they are out of sight, and they walk 1-2 miles to holding houses. Then they wait for nightfall, and are picked up and driven in vans to LA or San Diego.

Lastly, below is the Duncan Hunter 15' fence, which is already being built along a few "showplace" miles of San Diego, mainly near the ports of entry, where panderng politicians can conveniently show it off to gullible reporters. The House has approved building 700 miles of it, which would be a great start. As you can see, the rusty runway wall is seen at the left side, Mexico begins on the other side. In areas with the 15 foot fence, dope smugglers and illegals will have to cross the open sand ("the government road" as it is called) before starting to try to get over the 15 foot fence. It's extremely tough, and resists cutting. Attacking the fence would have to be done right out in the open, in full view of cameras. This type of fence, on the U.S. side of the government road, will give the USBP a barrier to patrol, instead of forcing them to chase illegals around 100,000 square miles of wide-open frontier land, which is a fool's errand.


39 posted on 01/02/2006 7:53:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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To: Eaker
It doesn't matter what Mexico has for a military, when our own presidente is such a pushover for theirs.


40 posted on 01/02/2006 7:57:55 PM PST by Travis McGee (--- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com ---)
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