Posted on 01/02/2006 12:25:03 PM PST by neverdem
ever notice how "news" stories claim that victims are killed by "STRAY" bullets? LOL! I didn't realize they had a mind of their own and were just homeless.....
I thought bullets traveled in a pretty straight line.....
Guns are like everything else- they can be used for good or evil....it is the operator who decides which one....
BTW- if anyone knows of a "STRAY" SUV that needs a home- I am willing to adopt!
Since the late 1800's (1890 I think - the Sullivan law) ... they also had a law that stated "use a gun, go to jail" and it's the first thing they (the DA) plea bargins away ....
Yet another reason why we can never let Northeast, RINO, hoplophobic Republicans into the Whitehouse. They can never be trusted with the Second Amendment.
Yet another reason why we can never let Northeast, RINO, hoplophobic Republicans into the Whitehouse. They can never be trusted with the Second Amendment.
Let's see Mr. A$$hole RINO Bloomberg do without his heavily armed bodyguard detail for a while. This jerk is a disgrace and a traitor to the Republican Party.
Oh, wait - big tent and all that.
Sheeesh.
Bloomberg is an enemy of the Bill of Rights. To call him a RINO is being to generous. He sounds like a left wing fascist.
Bloomboob was a lifelong dem until he got politically ambitious. He shouldn't get the time of day. Rudy and Pataki are pandering hoplophobes who make me worry.
You got that right, and I'm from Pa.
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I did once, but it was in a cartoon.PBS , I think.
I haven't even been able to get any of my guns to clean themselves after use. Heck, even a retarded cat can do that. I have to admit, though, that Hoppe's #9 is more pleasant to work with than cat litter.
Do you know what the odds are of a typical, responsible law abiding citizen to get a pistol permit in NYC.
Didn't you know that? Where have you been?
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My dad's a cop, for 21 years, and his gun has killed less people than Teddy Kennedy's car!
Do tell. Did your friend just walk into the local gunshop in NYC and purchase his weapon? Or is he connected, monied and carrying a permit allowing him this "privilege"?
Actually it was passed in 1911 after a failed assassination attempt on the city's mayor. IIRC Sullivan was a police commissioner who drew up the law and got it passed.
According to an article I read a few years ago in a gun magazine, the real reason Sullivan got the law passed was that he was paid off to get it done by a group of Irish dockworkers whose jobs were being taken by recent immigrants from southern Europe who would work for less pay. It seems the Irish dockworkers were beating and often killing the immigrant workers to intimidate them, hoping it would scare them away from working the docks. And their Irish cop friends in the area were ignoring the violence and actually doing some of it themselves.
After a while the Italian workers got tired of the abuse and bought guns to fight back. After several Irish thugs were shot and killed, the Irish workers and their Irish cop pals demanded that Sullivan get a law passed to disarm the immigrants. When the attempt to assassinate the mayor with a revolver was given wide publicity, Sullivan had the excuse he needed to get his namesake law passed.
I don't remember what gun rag that story came from, and I'm not certain that all of it is true. But having some knowledge of the corruption that was so prevalent in NYC government at that time (when was it not?), and the blatant favoritism that Irish NYC officials and cops gave to their Irish friends and families in that era, I tend to believe that most of it is true.
Note: I'm 1/2 Irish myself, so don't accuse me of Celt-bashing.
For concealed carry, it's effectively zero. For simple possession, it's pretty good other than the cost and time consumed. Firearms Laws For New York City As of January, 2005
Approval from the Commissioner must be obtained for each handgun purchased under the license. A license contains a description of each handgun possessed by the license holder.
Additional handguns may be added by means of a Purchase Authorization Coupon and an amendment to the license under New York State law.
A license is required to possess a handgun for any purpose. The Commissioner of the New York City Police Department is the issuing authority for handgun licenses. Unless indicated otherwise, such licenses and permits shall expire on the first day of the second January after the date of issuance. Every license to carry or possess a pistol or revolver in the city may be issued for a term of no less than one year or more than three years.
There are different handgun licenses with different privileges granted under each. A license for a handgun shall be issued as a: * possession license for in a dwelling by a householder or in a place of business by a merchant or storekeeper; * have and carry concealed for employment purposes; * have and carry concealed, without regard to employment or place of possession; * have, possess, collect and carry antique pistols.
A license may be granted to an applicant who is of good moral character, who is over the age of 21 years, who has not been convicted of a serious offense, who states if and when he has ever been treated for mental illness, who is not subject to a protective court order and to whom no good cause exists for the denial of the license. The age requirement shall not apply to persons honorably discharged from the military.
To obtain a handgun license to possess in a household or place of business, no showing of need is required. The applicant must meet the eligibility requirements listed above. The application procedure includes fingerprinting and the submission of 2 photos of the applicant taken within 30 days of the application date. The non-refundable application fee of all licenses and renewals is $170.00 for the first two years and there is a prorated fee if for more than two years. Licenses may not be issued for less than one year or more than 3 years. The fingerprinting fee is $99.00.
Only a licensed handgun owner can legally possess handgun ammunition, provided it is in the caliber of the licensed handgun. Only the licensed handgun owner can legally possess a magazine for the licensed handgun, provided it does not exceed 17 rounds capacity or extend below the grip of the handgun.
CARRYING-- HANDGUNS
The license to possess a handgun is a license to carry unless restricted, but almost all licenses are restricted. If there are no restrictions the licensee may carry the handgun concealed on or about his person, loaded or unloaded.
Handgun licenses issued elsewhere in New York State are not valid in New York City. New York City licenses are valid throughout New York State. However, a New York State license to carry or possess will be valid in New York City provided that the handguns are transported by the licensee in a locked container, and the trip through New York City is continuous and uninterrupted.
A license to possess a handgun in one's household or place of business or to possess a target handgun does not authorize the licensee to carry a handgun on or about his person except in the very limited circumstances including transporting unloaded handguns and ammunition in separate locked containers, directly to and from an authorized range, or hunting location.
To obtain a license to carry a concealed handgun the applicant is required to show that proper cause exists for the issuance of the license. The decision to issue or deny this license is within the discretion of the Commissioner, administered through the Pistol Licensing Division. A court will only overturn any decision granting or denying a concealed carry license if it can be shown that the Commissioner abused his discretion.
A license may not be transferred. The license holder must have the license in his possession while carrying a handgun, and each person licensed to possess a handgun on his premises is required to have a license on such premises. The license must be exhibited on demand of any peace officer
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