Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Toddsterpatriot
RE: "less efficient operations world wide are shutting down [including China]"

You are right, sort of. . if one doesn't mind getting dizzy from the spin.

I did not make my point well.

My point: You insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises".

Here's what I mean

Haier Group, China's largest kitchen-appliance maker, is NOT losing jobs nor are any of the modern enterprises built largely with western FDI and technology. These special economic zone enterprises are equivalent to western enterprises. I guess so they either conned, extorted or stole it from western useful idiots.

The old, worthless Mao-era Communist "workers' paradise" enterprises -- we pretend to work and the government pretends to pay us -- are losing jobs and a lot more jobs would be lost if a revolution would not be the result of cutting more "manufacturing" jobs. It is the Chi-coms' banks' nonperforming loans that are keeping these remaining cesspools of waste funded and open.

The point, a second time: you insult western free market enterprises by equating them to such Communist "enterprises" as Qingdao people's Refrigerator Factory -- those are the "manufacturing jobs" that are being lost.

A little history from several Internet sources.

Haier started out as Qingdao peoples' Refrigerator Factory, a state-run enterprise turning out low-cost, low-quality products.

Zhang Ruimin took over in 1984. Mr. Zhang, a Communist Party member and local-government bureaucrat, instituted management and quality-control standards at the plant with assistance from one of Germany's largest appliance makers.

The first thing Mr. Zhang did is assemble the often drunk "employees" of the Refrigerator Factory -- one source said that it was common for the "workers" to urinate on the assembly line -- and proceeded to smash the assembled, worthless refrigerators with a sledgehammer.

My point a third time, you insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises" like the people's Refrigerator Factory.

You can call those Communist cesspool enterprises "less efficient operations" if you want and spin the B.S. that China is losing jobs like every western free enterprise country but it's still spin B.S.

610 posted on 01/03/2006 8:18:24 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 601 | View Replies ]


To: WilliamofCarmichael
My point: You insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises".

The series missed the fundamental truth that trade has been a key ingredient in the acceleration of worker productivity and rising living standards in the United States in the last decade. During much of the 1990s, when imports and trade deficits were both rising rapidly, so too were domestic employment, manufacturing output, and real wages. Between 1994 and 2000, civilian employment in the U.S. economy rose by a net 12 million and the unemployment rate fell from 6 percent to 4 percent. During that same period, U.S. manufacturing output rose by 40 percent while the volume of imported manufactured goods doubled during that same period. Meanwhile, real compensation rose for American families up and down the income scale.

MoneyLine Series Misses the Story on Trade and Jobs

While Mr. Uchitelle first began whining about manufacturing being "downsized," it actually grew by 5.3 percent a year from 1992 through 2000. Manufacturing then fell 4.1 percent in 2001 (the bottom of his "trend") but rose at a 6.1 percent pace during the first three quarters of last year. What has been unusual about U.S. manufacturing was not the inevitable recession in 2001 but the unusually long and strong expansion for the preceding eight years. About half of the unusually strong gains came from the manufacture of high-tech equipment, which is a lot more valuable than T-shirts.

The cyclical ups and downs of manufacturing are international, by the way, not national. Manufacturing started falling in August 2000 in Japan and Korea, followed by the United States a month later. When manufacturing falls, so do imports.

Increases in productivity from improved machinery and skills are the reason manufacturing employment falls most of the time, as it does in farming, even when output is growing briskly. From 1990 to 2000, manufacturing employment fell by 0.4 percent a year in the U.S., by 1.8 percent a year in Japan and by 2.5 percent a year in Germany.

Manufacturing Myths

Skip Navigation Links   Latest Numbers
DOL Seal - Link to DOL Home Page
Photos representing the workforce - Digital Imageryý copyright 2001 PhotoDisc, Inc.
 www.bls.gov  Search | A-Z Index
Change Output Options: From:   To:     
include graphs NEW!
Data extracted on: January 4, 2006 (10:45:31 AM)
Employment, Hours, and Earnings from the Current Employment Statistics survey (National)

Series Id:     CES3000000001
Seasonally Adjusted
Super Sector:  Manufacturing
Industry:      Manufacturing
NAICS Code:    N/A
Data Type:     ALL EMPLOYEES, THOUSANDS
Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1990 17796 17896 17870 17845 17796 17774 17704 17647 17610 17574 17428 17395  
1991 17329 17214 17141 17093 17069 17042 17016 17025 17011 16997 16960 16916  
1992 16839 16831 16805 16830 16834 16825 16822 16782 16762 16750 16758 16768  
1993 16790 16806 16795 16771 16766 16742 16742 16741 16768 16778 16800 16815  
1994 16853 16862 16896 16932 16962 17011 17027 17082 17114 17144 17187 17218  
1995 17259 17264 17263 17278 17260 17250 17218 17241 17246 17215 17207 17230  
1996 17206 17229 17192 17204 17221 17226 17222 17255 17253 17268 17276 17285  
1997 17298 17316 17339 17351 17362 17387 17387 17451 17466 17513 17555 17587  
1998 17621 17627 17637 17636 17624 17607 17421 17564 17558 17512 17466 17449  
1999 17426 17394 17368 17342 17333 17294 17319 17288 17281 17275 17283 17277  
2000 17285 17285 17302 17299 17276 17297 17325 17287 17232 17215 17204 17181  

 

U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
Postal Square Building
2 Massachusetts Ave., NE
Washington, DC 20212-0001

Phone: (202) 691-5200
Fax-on-demand: (202) 691-6325
Data questions: blsdata_staff@bls.gov
Technical (web) questions: webmaster@bls.gov
Other comments: feedback@bls.gov

I guess the huge increase in American manufacturing output during the 1990s was caused by the huge increase in manufacturing workers? Hmmmm...we actually had fewer workers making more stuff? Maybe we closed our Communist-owned worthless "enterprises" while more efficient enterprises were created? I hope you're not feeling too dizzy from this "spin".

640 posted on 01/04/2006 7:49:35 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 610 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson