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To: WilliamofCarmichael
My point: You insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises".

The series missed the fundamental truth that trade has been a key ingredient in the acceleration of worker productivity and rising living standards in the United States in the last decade. During much of the 1990s, when imports and trade deficits were both rising rapidly, so too were domestic employment, manufacturing output, and real wages. Between 1994 and 2000, civilian employment in the U.S. economy rose by a net 12 million and the unemployment rate fell from 6 percent to 4 percent. During that same period, U.S. manufacturing output rose by 40 percent while the volume of imported manufactured goods doubled during that same period. Meanwhile, real compensation rose for American families up and down the income scale.

MoneyLine Series Misses the Story on Trade and Jobs

While Mr. Uchitelle first began whining about manufacturing being "downsized," it actually grew by 5.3 percent a year from 1992 through 2000. Manufacturing then fell 4.1 percent in 2001 (the bottom of his "trend") but rose at a 6.1 percent pace during the first three quarters of last year. What has been unusual about U.S. manufacturing was not the inevitable recession in 2001 but the unusually long and strong expansion for the preceding eight years. About half of the unusually strong gains came from the manufacture of high-tech equipment, which is a lot more valuable than T-shirts.

The cyclical ups and downs of manufacturing are international, by the way, not national. Manufacturing started falling in August 2000 in Japan and Korea, followed by the United States a month later. When manufacturing falls, so do imports.

Increases in productivity from improved machinery and skills are the reason manufacturing employment falls most of the time, as it does in farming, even when output is growing briskly. From 1990 to 2000, manufacturing employment fell by 0.4 percent a year in the U.S., by 1.8 percent a year in Japan and by 2.5 percent a year in Germany.

Manufacturing Myths

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Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1990 17796 17896 17870 17845 17796 17774 17704 17647 17610 17574 17428 17395  
1991 17329 17214 17141 17093 17069 17042 17016 17025 17011 16997 16960 16916  
1992 16839 16831 16805 16830 16834 16825 16822 16782 16762 16750 16758 16768  
1993 16790 16806 16795 16771 16766 16742 16742 16741 16768 16778 16800 16815  
1994 16853 16862 16896 16932 16962 17011 17027 17082 17114 17144 17187 17218  
1995 17259 17264 17263 17278 17260 17250 17218 17241 17246 17215 17207 17230  
1996 17206 17229 17192 17204 17221 17226 17222 17255 17253 17268 17276 17285  
1997 17298 17316 17339 17351 17362 17387 17387 17451 17466 17513 17555 17587  
1998 17621 17627 17637 17636 17624 17607 17421 17564 17558 17512 17466 17449  
1999 17426 17394 17368 17342 17333 17294 17319 17288 17281 17275 17283 17277  
2000 17285 17285 17302 17299 17276 17297 17325 17287 17232 17215 17204 17181  

 

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I guess the huge increase in American manufacturing output during the 1990s was caused by the huge increase in manufacturing workers? Hmmmm...we actually had fewer workers making more stuff? Maybe we closed our Communist-owned worthless "enterprises" while more efficient enterprises were created? I hope you're not feeling too dizzy from this "spin".

640 posted on 01/04/2006 7:49:35 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
Thank you for the information -- you'll get no argument from me about productivity increases.

I do not know how to state it any other way but I'll try:

Arguing that China too has eliminated inefficient operations thus they have gone (are going) through the same process as we is B.S.

They could not possibly have done (be doing) so. They are simply eliminating worthless Communist-style people's "enterprises" by the thousands until revolution became a real threat.

Meanwhile they are joining the real world with state of the art western technology purchased mostly by our useful idiots' FDI. Red China is getting a lot of our manufacturing sector. We are sending technology, wealth and jobs to them.

Some brush aside the fact that American jobs are being transferred to Red China.

"How can that be so?" they ask. "Look China cut millions of manufacturing jobs, we can't be sending our jobs there, they don't need them."

Red China is in a kind of transition. It is NOT the same as free enterprise advancements in a free nation. There, I said it another way.

But glad you pointed out that "During that same period (1994 and 2000), U.S. manufacturing output rose by 40 percent"

That's another argument some use such as CATO's Reynolds. How can we be losing jobs to China if manufacturing's portion of GDP has remained basically unchanged for decades? he asked. Productivity increases explain the job losses.

Magic is a better explanation. The Clinton's numbers keepers introduced hedonics. See post #71 (not mine). I am desperately looking for someone who can prove that the manufacturing portion of the GDP is NOT grossly overstated by hedonics. Thanks.

644 posted on 01/04/2006 8:42:52 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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