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To: Vision; Havoc
This is PURE bunk. It is NOT a matter of the "whole world" being caught in some shift..

If there is no shift, Havoc should be able to explain why manufacturing jobs have been disappearing worldwide. Even in China. But a conspiracy is so much more satisfying than the truth. And it doesn't require you to find any facts. Easier.

579 posted on 01/03/2006 3:53:21 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot
RE: "manufacturing jobs have been disappearing worldwide. Even in China. But a conspiracy is so much more satisfying than the truth."

China is losing "manufacturing jobs -- if you count those old worthless Mao-era state-owned enterprises as manufacturing. Many of them are responsible for the Chi-coms' banks' nonperforming loan problem. "Loans" to inefficient state-owned enterprises are not repaid and are needed to keep from cutting more jobs thus increasing the growing unrest among the tens of millions of unemployed.

Manufacturing jobs are being cut by closing inefficient state-owned enterprises (SOEs).

Manufacturing jobs are growing in China's special economic zones. Here is a news item excerpt from a Yahoo! Asian source:

"China's soaring productivity stems from downsizing and restructuring of public companies, and upsizing of foreign firms and firms with foreign investment as well as private domestic Chinese producers, according to the study." [End excerpt]

It's an insult to equate worthless Mao-era state-owned Communist "enterprises" with Western free market private enterprises.

China losing real manufacturing jobs is spin that would make a whirling dervish envious.

598 posted on 01/03/2006 6:05:25 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (Hillary is the she in shenanigans.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

Can you make a cohesive argument for once. Whether businesses
improve in efficiency locally or not has zero to do with whether a "global shift" has taken place. The only shift taking place is the shift in some diapers as people call the non-baby contents good for us. The real shift that has taken place is business and Politicians trying to TELL us how it is gonna be. Last I looked, we out here are the boss in this nation. And the market sets the standards, not business which is but one half of it. Politicians and business schemeing together to destroy the standing of the worker in the market in order to "shift" favor to business artificially is criminal IMHO. If you want to pretend some imaginary shift took place and try to bs America with that nonsense, you better think again.


625 posted on 01/03/2006 10:08:07 PM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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