[muir_redwoods]

"Good, I'll be right over to hog tie you, prostrate you on the ground with 200 pounds on your back and then race you 100 yards for everything you own. If you can't compete, no fair whining about it. Oops, didn't say anything about fairness or a level playing field did we.. how obtuse of you. lost that one. wanna just mail me my winnings, or are you going to put up a fight now that you'll want to specify a fair fight..."

Come on over Havoc but I warn you, I compete pretty well. If it's the jungle you favor I can win there too but in the country I live in there are rules, just as few as possible. Assault and battery and theft are illegal. Also please note, no one ever guaranteed you that the plan you made 30 years ago was good for all time. If you want to live in the world, deal with change. If you can't deal with change fall behind and lose. You choice but you're not the only one who gets to make it.

[Paul Ross]

Assault and battery and theft are illegal.

Which are the rules of the road in U.S. trade, governed and enforced under U.S. law, and protected thereby.

But not so in international trade...

Regulating foreign commerce was supposed to be enforced by our Congress, as per the Constitution. Not abdicated to a World Court with personnel from all corners who want to get the USA...or worse still, enter sham treaties (but fail to gain the constitutionally required 2/3rds support in the Senate) that render the US production defenseless against unfairnesses blatantly manufactured by foreign governments willy-nilly ...and then just pretend those unfairnesses are okay. "It's free trade, after all..."

[hedgetrimmer]

no one ever guaranteed you that the plan you made 30 years ago was good for all time.

And yet who could have imagined how the "free traders" would undermine the US Constitution so effectively? Now, people who support Constitutional tariffs and congressional authority over trade, are now derided as "protectionists". And the "free traders" who promote global rules and authority over the American people, undermining their right to self determination, and who promote a form of global socialism to "fight poverty" and the downward harmonization of American standards of living with the third world congratulate themselves shamelessly on their accomplishments. Go figure.

[Havoc]

You're dodging. Assault and battery and theft were'nt mentioned or alluded to in my point. Go back and read because the point was fair competition. When you lost the point you dodged it.. just want it clear that you fudged. Thanks.