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To: bronxboy; rbg81; umgud; NoControllingLegalAuthority; eddie2; Willie Green; lewislynn; Iscool
That's just tough luck for the overpriced worker. The criminal conspiracies known as labor unions now have exactly what they've been working for for the past 70 years at least.

My sympathy for the innocent victims but 3/4 of a century of coddling corrupt union officials and make-work subsidies that resulted in over-priced and poor-quality cars has produced this situation. The blame lies not with the customer who makes a rational value decision, the fault lies in the corrupt officials and labor leeches who created the situation. I am not blind to the harm this causes, I am simply well-sighted enough to see who caused it and it wasn't the customer.

116 posted on 01/02/2006 8:50:02 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Free Sirhan Sirhan, after all, the bastard who killed Mary Jo Kopechne is walking around free)
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To: muir_redwoods

Don't know what business you're in. Maybe your customer will decide one day that he do what you do for cheaper--be it offshoring or an immigrant. Then I guess it will be your tough luck.


122 posted on 01/02/2006 9:12:33 AM PST by rbg81
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To: muir_redwoods

Labor unions didn't cause anything to do with offshoring. Offshoring is it's own benefit regardless of wage rate at any level in this country. And no matter how hard you guys try, you can't blame the unions for companies going to countries for .37 an hour labor. The cheapest legal rate in the country is 5.53 an hour and that cannot compete with China. That tells you that the high end has nothing to do with it. It also tells US how stupid YOU think we all are. Nobody in their right mind can say that 5.53, much less anything above it, can compete against .37 an hour. It's no contest, yet you intend to tell us all it's fair in some way only arrived at by new math as transubstantiated into another dimensional reality by the treason lobby. And it's the unions' fault..

Did the companies or did they not enter into a bargaining session at each step with the unions in signing a contract.
Simple yes or no. The answer is yes, they did. And that is how this market has worked and not just with Unions. Labor in this country has done so well by business that business has had to do well by employees to get and keep them - historically speaking. But, ethics recently went out the window en masse and the deck was rigged against the worker end of the equation. Supply and demand was dealing business a tougher hand than it wanted, so politicians broke it and sold out the American worker for Corporate interests. It's no more or less complicated than that. It plays into the hands of the globalists and makes the corporations wealthier while depressing wages and benefits etc. The secondary gains to be had include bargain prices of realestate caused by bankruptcies associated with the upheaval, etc.

Unions are nothing more than a lame attempt at a scapegoat for malfeasance plain and simple. Smoke for the getaway.
Problem with smoke is there's always someone around smart enough to turn on a fan or work to put out the fire if it's that bad. In this case, it's just a mild annoyance and a lame bs excuse hoping to be mistaken for intelligent banter.
US businesses didn't like American wages but wanted American profits. They sold out Americans for profit - pure and simple.. but, lower, they did it in wartime. To properly use a phrase that was improperly used with McCarthy, "Have you no shame, sir.. at long last.." If God has a sense of humor, he'd resurrect Roy Bean for a day to deal with it properly. But absent that, I'm sure the sheep will adapt and overcome his absence if ya'll don't flee to france or Canada first.. or *gasp* grow a conscience and change your wicked ways... lol


127 posted on 01/02/2006 9:27:46 AM PST by Havoc (President George and King George.. coincidence?)
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To: muir_redwoods
The criminal conspiracies known as labor unions now have exactly what they've been working for for the past 70 years at least.

We know that, what worries me is the criminal conspiracy in the board room. They still don't have what they would like and they will continue to do it to this country until they achieve it.
134 posted on 01/02/2006 9:52:01 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: muir_redwoods

"That's just tough luck for the overpriced worker. The criminal conspiracies known as labor unions now have exactly what they've been working for for the past 70 years at least."

And remember that unions are very profitable for the Mafia!


165 posted on 01/02/2006 11:02:39 AM PST by JLGALT
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