Posted on 01/02/2006 4:19:44 AM PST by ventana
Yes, less efficient operations world wide are shutting down which is why manufacturing employment is shrinking while manufacturing output is rising. Even here in the US. And we don't need a conspiracy to explain it.
I didn't make the rules here; I just stated one correctly. If you don't like the rules here, yell at Jim.
Neither of my cars is "cheap", you probably can't afford the clothes I buy, and none of your post has a single thing to do with the article that heads this thread.
Marxists ARE stupid. If you want to argue this point...fee free. b:-)
Since you're against CAPITALISM, you really should consider moving to Cuba or perhaps even N.Korea..."worker's paradises" both. :-)
I know that you still wont be able to see what I am alluding to, in this post of yours, but do, please, give it a try.
The "principles of the Founders"? Oh yes, how could I have forgotten, surly, there are massive amounts of anti-corportation prose in the Federalist Papers. Oh, that's right...there isn't. Nor is there anything remotely anit-capitalist in the BoR and the Constitution. Shucks, no, there isn't. Page after page of it in POOR RICHARD'S ALMANAC? Nope, not there either.
Why are you so certain that stiff tariffs will be such a boon? Smoot-Hawly must mean nothing whatsoever to you.
Some of the FFs not only believed that slavery was a good thing, they were slave holders. None of them could manage a way to abolish it and still keep all of the colonies together, to form this nation. If you want to go back to that time, you'll have to invent a working time machine. But I doubt that you would last a month, in that era, no matter what you imagine.
Well, that makes three of us.
You are right, sort of. . if one doesn't mind getting dizzy from the spin.
I did not make my point well.
My point: You insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises".
Here's what I mean
Haier Group, China's largest kitchen-appliance maker, is NOT losing jobs nor are any of the modern enterprises built largely with western FDI and technology. These special economic zone enterprises are equivalent to western enterprises. I guess so they either conned, extorted or stole it from western useful idiots.
The old, worthless Mao-era Communist "workers' paradise" enterprises -- we pretend to work and the government pretends to pay us -- are losing jobs and a lot more jobs would be lost if a revolution would not be the result of cutting more "manufacturing" jobs. It is the Chi-coms' banks' nonperforming loans that are keeping these remaining cesspools of waste funded and open.
The point, a second time: you insult western free market enterprises by equating them to such Communist "enterprises" as Qingdao people's Refrigerator Factory -- those are the "manufacturing jobs" that are being lost.
A little history from several Internet sources.
Haier started out as Qingdao peoples' Refrigerator Factory, a state-run enterprise turning out low-cost, low-quality products.
Zhang Ruimin took over in 1984. Mr. Zhang, a Communist Party member and local-government bureaucrat, instituted management and quality-control standards at the plant with assistance from one of Germany's largest appliance makers.
The first thing Mr. Zhang did is assemble the often drunk "employees" of the Refrigerator Factory -- one source said that it was common for the "workers" to urinate on the assembly line -- and proceeded to smash the assembled, worthless refrigerators with a sledgehammer.
My point a third time, you insult western free market enterprises by equating them to Mao-era, Communist-owned worthless "enterprises" like the people's Refrigerator Factory.
You can call those Communist cesspool enterprises "less efficient operations" if you want and spin the B.S. that China is losing jobs like every western free enterprise country but it's still spin B.S.
It might be correct.
I think by 2008, no later than 2009 we will have it. (Elections in 2006 plus 2008 will do it)
Corporations acquired and exceeded the rights of human beings much later after writing of Federalist Papers and the Constitution.
Okay, fair enough. I'm interested in your specific situation and instead of talking generalities like we have in this thread, I want to see what can be done about your individual circumstances, because I fall in the camp of people who believe that there are still enormous opportunities in this country.
For the record, I have worked on software systems where if X was not done by Y time, Z million dollars would be lost. Where Y time is six hours from the word "go", on a configuration I've never seen before in my life, and with a group of people I've never worked with before and now have to work with in perfect synchrony through only a phone and instant messaging connection. When you have that level of expertise, charging $50/hour and up is not a problem (actually, I charge 400% of that and my engagement calendar is still booked as much as I like, but you can reasonably expect $50-80/hour of W-2 employment at that level of expertise if you work for someone else), and you've indicated that you would consider that more than acceptable compared to your current situation.
Now, if it is true that you work in Windows support as freedumb2003 thinks, then yes, you have many long nights of studying ahead of you. However, I'm going to go with what little you have shared so far in this thread, instead of conjectures. You have indicated that you cannot move away from where you live (Indiana), and it has been a little over a year since your position was offshored. You claim you currently make $7 per hour. You say you have already looked at the construction market. Judging by your posts, I know that you can string together coherent sentences, though I can't tell one way or the other if you can put together reports for management consumption (I suspect you would be able to, or at least taught the skill in a year otherwise). Your offshored position was at EDS. You have some level of programming skills in C, C++, Pascal, and x86 assembler. You have about 10 years of PC sales experience.
You definitely don't have money to throw at your predicament, and possibly not very much time (say, 10-20 hours per week). You apparently do have enough time and/or money to get onto the Internet, at dialup speeds at least; otherwise we wouldn't be here on FreeRepublic. Whether you have to get onto the Net through the public library or through your own connection, the salient fact is you are finding the time to get on the Net.
Does this accurately describe your situation?
Wikipedia is a liberal rag, sorry. And you are rather narrow in your definition.
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=treason
Welcome to Generation-X.
Now get back to work! Those Bush-hating old hippies need more chai!
(Anyhow, who ever thought your stupid job was supposed to provide a pension, security and a doctor!?)
Sure it did - in an alternate universe where everyone is you and has your circumstance in life, perhaps your fictional vision of things would work. But everyone doesn't have your circumstance, etc. You might as well set up a recursive "if" loop for a perfect world scenario and tell us how everything will work "if".
Yeah, right. They apparently threatened to wreck the wedding of Perot's daughter. Is your daughter worth a political office? Some people in this country have priorities and moral convictions. Just because you don't doesn't mean the world should stop and act like you want it to act.
Sorry, no. I'm not a defeatist who just gives up because my enemies tell me it's done and can't be undone. The message is, we're going to ruin you - lay down and take it. Since when is that how Americans think or act! Pound sand!
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