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Japanese warship 'to guard whalers'
The Australian ^ | January 02, 2006 | Amanda Hodge

Posted on 01/01/2006 5:41:10 PM PST by Dundee

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To: packrat35
I'm pretty sure the whales Japan hunts are Minske whales which are not almost extinct.

Then it is not an irresponsible use of a limited resource, and then I don't have a problem with it.
61 posted on 01/01/2006 8:13:11 PM PST by starbase (Understanding Written Propaganda (click "starbase" to learn 22 manipulating tricks!!))
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To: DieHard the Hunter

If you think the Japanese are more of a problem than greenpeace it really explains Helen Clarks tenure. You havn't a clue noooob.


62 posted on 01/01/2006 8:34:03 PM PST by bad company (A foolproof plan fails to take in to account the Ingenuity of fools.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"I'm not at all happy of the concept of "Japanese Warships"."

Having just visited the Admiral Nimitz Museum this afternoon, I'm not either, but...

if they must encounter "environmentalists," I hope there's no "seizing" of their vessels - just attacking...

63 posted on 01/01/2006 8:35:27 PM PST by Redbob
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To: freedumb2003
Send in the French.

Which side is going to surrender?

64 posted on 01/01/2006 8:44:40 PM PST by phil1750 (Love like you've never been hurt;Dance like nobody's watching;PRAY like it's your last prayer)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
In 50 years time, they will be a force that will need to be reckoned with. Again.

Yep, they'll run all over us with their walkers.

Japan is aging even faster than the US.

66 posted on 01/01/2006 8:50:47 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Welcome to Free Republic.

Even in the short time you've been here, you've likely discovered it to be a breath of fresh air.

Cheers!

Warning: Highly addictive.

67 posted on 01/01/2006 8:53:10 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

> Welcome to Free Republic.

Hey, thanks mate!

Cheers!


68 posted on 01/01/2006 8:54:32 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

"We do our best with what we have available: but we're a country with a population the size of metropolitan Chicago. Our resources go only so far: we do peacekeeping in Bougainville and East Timor, we've got soldiers in Afghanisan, and we patrol a huge part of the South Pacific for piracy, drug running, illegal immigrants, search & rescue, illegal fishing, smuggling...

We catch as many bad guys as we can."

Oh I know dude, you guys have been awesome with the war on terror. Since the japaneese have become rather pacifistic though, you could probably send a digny with the nz flag and a rifle and you probably could scare them off. And of course you could hit them in the pocketbook by doing a economic and tourist boycott of japan. Im not sure if toyota sells cars in nz, If they do start there.


69 posted on 01/01/2006 8:54:55 PM PST by spikeytx86
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To: John Williams
Which means sooner or later, they'll have to take in a LOT of immigrants just to prop up the whole house of cards.

How about Lord of the Rings fans like me?

I'm a conservative. I promise.

Cheers!

71 posted on 01/01/2006 8:59:55 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: packrat35

The US and most of the world does NOT recognize anyone's claims to Antarctica.

How can Australia and New Zealand enforce a non-ignistic right?

countries defend and enforce unrecognized boundries all the time. China still occupies indian territory, venezuela claims a good chunk of the carribean for itself, and we have a claim to a good portion of the western atlantic.

If australia and new zealand truly feel that this area is there back yard, then they have an unspoken right to defend it. And if anyone has a right to it it is the aussies and kiwi's and certainly not the japanese.


72 posted on 01/01/2006 9:01:23 PM PST by spikeytx86
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To: spikeytx86

> Oh I know dude, you guys have been awesome with the war on terror.

We sent our elite NZ SAS to fight in Afghanistan.


73 posted on 01/01/2006 9:07:09 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
I'm no tree-hugger, but I do draw the line at countries like Japan who, under the guise of "research", sneak into South Pacific waters (where they do not belong) and plunder magnificent animals...

I don't like whaling either (and Japan doesn't need it - they have plenty to eat), but I would love to see a boatload of Greenpeace Luddites get sent to the bottom. The same organization also tried to interfere with the peaceful transfer of nuclear waste by ship to the Tsukuba recycling plant. In other words, Greenpeace whines about the "problem" of nuclear waste at the same time as it gets in the way of Japan's solution to the same problem.

74 posted on 01/01/2006 9:07:12 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: BlazingArizona

> ut I would love to see a boatload of Greenpeace Luddites get sent to the bottom.

Like I said, I'm no tree-hugger and I do not generally support Greenpeace or the Sea Shepherd Society, or their methods.

As it pertains to whale hunting, though, they have my full endorsement -- with a wish that our Governments would have the balls to send a frigate-or-two to do the job that an unarmed civilian vessel is doing, quite admirably.


75 posted on 01/01/2006 9:12:14 PM PST by DieHard the Hunter (I am the Chieftain of my Clan. I bow to nobody. Get out of my way.)
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To: freedumb2003
In a fight between France and Greenpeace we are at best ambivilant about the outcome.

I'm not. I wish they would wipe each other out. Militarily, I would call it about an even match. Let's all raise a Speight's when that happens!

76 posted on 01/01/2006 9:14:39 PM PST by BlazingArizona
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To: DieHard the Hunter
"Mate, with respect: Japan is in clear violation of the International Whaling Commission's global moratorium on commercial whaling. Full stop. "

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From the "International Whaling Commission" website:
"The purpose of the Convention is to provide for the proper conservation of whale stocks and thus make possible the orderly development of the whaling industry.

The main duty of the IWC is to keep under review and revise as necessary the measures laid down in the Schedule to the Convention which govern the conduct of whaling throughout the world (Click HERE to view the full text). These measures, among other things, provide for the complete protection of certain species; designate specified areas as whale sanctuaries; set limits on the numbers and size of whales which may be taken; prescribe open and closed seasons and areas for whaling; and prohibit the capture of suckling calves and female whales accompanied by calves. The compilation of catch reports and other statistical and biological records is also required.

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Doesn't sound like global moratorium on commercial whaling..
Nor does it sound like the IWC is an official International Government or Treaty Organization empowered to write or enforce laws.

Can you provide a link to any International OFFICIAL Government organization that has outlawed Japan's current fishing activity?

Semper Fi

77 posted on 01/01/2006 9:20:33 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: DieHard the Hunter

and I appreciate it. For a little nation you guys have a crack special ops team. You guys have had our back, I guess thats what kin dose, since we all come from the same mother (or do you guys say mum?)


78 posted on 01/01/2006 9:28:15 PM PST by spikeytx86
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To: Flavius

Whale...on Iron Chef?


79 posted on 01/01/2006 9:30:41 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
As it pertains to whale hunting, though, they have my full endorsement -- with a wish that our Governments would have the balls to send a frigate-or-two to do the job that an unarmed civilian vessel is doing, quite admirably.

Piracy and an act of war. Again, unwise. I'm sure the US Navy would have no part of such an action. Be happy you don't get what you want.

80 posted on 01/01/2006 9:32:33 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Happy New Year FReepers.)
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