Lincoln didn't violate the law when doing it. And I'd be interested in documentation on your FDR claims.
A little domestic spying is the LEAST of people's civil liberties problems: unless you are a terrorist.
And who decided who is a terrorist?
A terrorist is as a terrorist does....
I'll get you some links for my FDR claims.
You mean to say it's not clear to you? Well, in that case, happily, you're not in charge!
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LOL!!! Of course not...Don't come complaining to me about this invasion of privacy. The current administration is using that leader as an excuse for this. And yes, he violated the law as well. Remind me, what did SCOTUS rule in 1866?
And who decided who is a terrorist?
That would be those within the Executive Branch. You remember, the Branch that was supposed to be the weakest branch? Wonder which former executive changed that, particularly in times of 'war'?
What I find humorous is the belief that the revelation of this is some sort of 'breach of national defense'. As if Abdullah and his band weren't already aware of their questionable conversations being recorded. However instead of going after the government for overstepping some serious bounds, 'conservatives' are upset it became common knowledge and even more upset he isn't going further. Anything to support the cause don't you know. Reminds me of another group of Radical Republicans.
That's a good question. Maybe some things have to be decided after the fact. For example, when you use a gun to kill an attacker, you made a decision that he was a criminal. Afterward, though, a judge or a jury may decide you were wrong and make you pay the price. Likewise if the administration guesses wrong about a terrorist, they should have to suffer the consequences.
Nor did President Bush break the law. A leftist making an accusation does not make it so.
Somebody has to make the decision Champ, we're at war. I'm eternally thankful the decision maker in this case is not some anti-American, brain dead arsehole like yourself and your idol, John F'ing Kerry.
Lincoln didn't violate the law when doing it.
Suspension of habeas corpus is a legislative power. Congress passed a measure that gave Lincoln his power.
In Ex parte Milligan, 71 US 2 (1866), the Supreme Court held that the denial of habeas corpus to Milligan was in violation of the law. That doesn't mean that all denials of habeas were outside of the law, that is, some of the military detentions and denial of access to Article III courts was legal. But the Court held that Milligan's was not.
It's simple.
Anyone who doesn't blindly grovel at the feet of our Dear NeoCons is a terrorist.