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Flies take next giant step for mankind
Scotland on Sunday ^ | 01/01/06 | RICHARD GRAY

Posted on 01/01/2006 12:56:12 PM PST by KevinDavis

SCOTTISH scientists have received a massive Nasa grant to work out whether humans can successfully reproduce in space and colonise other worlds.

The team have been given £800,000 by the US space agency to breed several generations of fruit flies in zero gravity and then examine any genetic changes in the insects.

The unique project is an essential first step towards discovering whether mankind can survive for generations in space and establish permanent homes elsewhere in the solar system.

The grant has been awarded to Dr Douglas Armstrong, a behavioural geneticist at Edinburgh University, who hopes to get his experiments into space aboard the shuttle by the end of 2007.

(Excerpt) Read more at scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: colonization; space; spacecolonies
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1 posted on 01/01/2006 12:56:15 PM PST by KevinDavis
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2 posted on 01/01/2006 12:56:58 PM PST by KevinDavis (http://www.cafepress.com/spacefuture)
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Why is the US government paying Scottish scientists?


3 posted on 01/01/2006 12:58:33 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: KevinDavis

Okay, maybe I'm dense, but isn't there a more obvious way to see whether people can breed in space?


4 posted on 01/01/2006 1:00:09 PM PST by RichInOC ("We're engaged!" "Well, DISengage and report back to your stations!")
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To: LauraleeBraswell

Maybe, Scottish flies don't wear underware under their kilts?

Less weight in launching them into space yah know ;O)


5 posted on 01/01/2006 1:01:16 PM PST by ancient_geezer (Don't reform it, Replace it!!)
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To: RichInOC
How about like, paying American Scientists to do the job? Seriously, nothing seems more obvious to me.
6 posted on 01/01/2006 1:01:27 PM PST by LauraleeBraswell
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To: KevinDavis
Does it really cost that much to breed flies? I mean...seriously!
7 posted on 01/01/2006 1:01:59 PM PST by Americanchild (..and deliver us all from Islam!)
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To: Americanchild
Does it really cost that much to breed flies? I mean...seriously!

It does when you have to launch them into space to do it, then bring them back to examine the results.

8 posted on 01/01/2006 1:06:55 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: LauraleeBraswell

I was thinking that, if they really want to know whether human subjects can reproduce in space conditions, wouldn't the most obvious method be to use, you know, human subjects?


9 posted on 01/01/2006 1:07:16 PM PST by RichInOC ("We're engaged!" "Well, DISengage and report back to your stations!")
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To: KevinDavis

Good. Let Europe waste their money on space madness. Meanwhile, we should privatize NASA. It's neat that carrots grow in space. It's not 2 or 3 billion dollars neat, though.


10 posted on 01/01/2006 1:07:16 PM PST by mysterio
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To: KevinDavis
Very cool new Ping graphic.

Happy New Year KD!
11 posted on 01/01/2006 1:08:23 PM PST by EsmeraldaA
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To: KevinDavis
"whether humans can successfully reproduce in space"

I suppose the obvious method of determining this is out of the question for reasons of cost?

12 posted on 01/01/2006 1:28:28 PM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: RichInOC
...wouldn't the most obvious method be to use, you know, human subjects?

Wot, kiss and tell? Worse yet, file reports?

13 posted on 01/01/2006 1:37:01 PM PST by Grut
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To: KevinDavis

Hoot mon. The Yanks are just plain daft.


14 posted on 01/01/2006 1:45:52 PM PST by LoneRangerMassachusetts (Some say what's good for others, the others make the goods; it's the meddlers against the peddlers)
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To: LauraleeBraswell
How about like, paying American Scientists to do the job? Seriously, nothing seems more obvious to me.

No American scientists thought of it. I'd rather have the best experiments flown regardless of the origin of the scientists.

15 posted on 01/01/2006 1:51:13 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Happy New Year!)
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To: KevinDavis
"The team have been given £800,000 by the US space agency to breed several generations of fruit flies in zero gravity and then examine any genetic changes in the insects."

We've been breeding hundreds of thousands of fruit flies to test "evolution".

This oughta work, though. Yep. I'm sure we can learn a lot about human biology studying "several generations" of fruit flies in zero g.

16 posted on 01/01/2006 2:00:07 PM PST by manwiththehands (My wish for the new year: I wish Republicans were running the country.)
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To: KevinDavis

"Lord of the Flies" ping!


17 posted on 01/01/2006 2:41:20 PM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: KevinDavis

If they employee NOW or Pro-Choice groups to help in this experiment their answer would be NO, you can't reproduce in outerspace.


18 posted on 01/01/2006 2:44:03 PM PST by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Ichneumon
It does when you have to launch them into space to do it, then bring them back to examine the results.

Yeah, I guess it's cheaper making use of the world-renowned Scottish space program. :=)

19 posted on 01/01/2006 2:46:38 PM PST by Bob
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To: RichInOC

> if they really want to know whether human subjects can reproduce in space conditions, wouldn't the most obvious method be to use, you know, human subjects?

And if zero-g means that humans don't develop properly, or the cosmic ray/other radiation issues mean that babies turn out to be horrible freaks... then there'll be no ethical issues?


20 posted on 01/01/2006 3:16:05 PM PST by orionblamblam (A furore Normannorum libra nos, Domine)
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