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Effort to remove 'Hoover' from FBI headquarters grows
LA Times/Cron ^ | Dec. 31, 2005 | JOHANNA NEUMAN

Posted on 01/01/2006 12:14:45 AM PST by ncountylee

•Wiretap and intimidation stories have hurt bureau founder's reputation

WASHINGTON - Every year for the last three years, Republican Rep. Dan Burton of Indiana has introduced a bill to strip J. Edgar Hoover's name from the FBI's huge headquarters building — an initiative that has been largely ignored.

Once widely admired for founding the modern-day FBI on principles of strict probity, Hoover later became identified with invasive eavesdropping and bureau efforts to discredit the likes of Martin Luther King Jr., at the height of the civil rights movement in the 1960s and 1970s. Hoover has also been accused of using explosive gossip collected by his agents to intimidate powerful political leaders, including presidents.

Now, however, amid headlines about possibly illegal government surveillance of Americans inside the United States, the effort to rename the Hoover building is starting to attract more supporters.

"This country — and the bureau — would be well-served if his name were removed from the bureau's building," U.S. Circuit Judge Laurence H. Silberman, a Reagan appointee, told the First Circuit Judicial Conference last June. "It is as if the Defense Department were named for Aaron Burr."

Across Washington, the names of major figures adorn scores of government buildings and federal headquarters, but few have experienced the reputation erosion that has befallen Hoover since he left the national stage.

(Excerpt) Read more at chron.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: doj; fbi; fbihq; jedgarhoover; leo
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1 posted on 01/01/2006 12:14:46 AM PST by ncountylee
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To: ncountylee

The transvestite/gay lobby will go nuts.


2 posted on 01/01/2006 12:15:18 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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A judge has sealed the FBI files on King
until the year 2027. What are they hiding?



United States District Judge John Lewis Smith, Jr., ordered all known copies of the recorded audiotapes and written transcripts resulting from the FBI's electronic surveillance of King between 1963 and 1968, be held in the National Archives and sealed from public access until 2027.


3 posted on 01/01/2006 12:30:49 AM PST by njpa (http://www.csus.edu/hornet/archive/fall98/number12/news04.html)
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To: ncountylee

I wouldn't mind seeing it renamed the "F#@% off @O#%I@$G activist judges building".....


4 posted on 01/01/2006 12:34:57 AM PST by Dan from Michigan ("What does a guy have to do to get fired around here?" - Darryl Rogers, former Lions Coach)
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To: ncountylee

People that think Hoover was excessive should see what teddy bear he was compared to his Cold War counterpart Beria.

His info on M.L. King was correct and it was not just the heighth of the "civil rights" movement it was also the Cold War and King was on the wrong side of history with his pro-NVA and pro-Soviet rhetoric.

When Hoover was new to the job he organized the national info sharing on criminals. That is why of all the big-name depression era bank robbers and desparados were taken down by the FBI or in the case of Bonnie and Clyde by info provided by the FBI. Dillenger, Nelson, Floyd, the Barkers, Kelly and many more brushed off local lawmen but were taken by Hoover's Feds.


5 posted on 01/01/2006 12:42:06 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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His info on M.L. King was correct and it was not just the heighth of the "civil rights" movement it was also the Cold War and King was on the wrong side of history with his pro-NVA and pro-Soviet rhetoric


Wrong. King told the Soviets not to let the door hit them on the way out.


6 posted on 01/01/2006 12:44:48 AM PST by durasell (!)
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King was on Uncle Ho's side. He attended a pure communist meeting in Monteagle, Tennessee and seemed to go no further in distancing himself from the Soviets than the American Communist Party. His economics were not Reagan's and not even Kennedy's.


7 posted on 01/01/2006 12:49:41 AM PST by Monterrosa-24 (France kicked Germany's teeth out at Verdun among other places.)
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To: ncountylee

1. Swat that stupid motion down like a gnat.

2. In the alternative, agree to rename FBI headquarters after a former agent who's gone on to an exciting and influential career in the wider world. I'm referring, of course, to George Gordon Battle Liddy. I reckon that will, at minimum, get Harry to shut up about it.


8 posted on 01/01/2006 12:50:25 AM PST by RichInOC ("Defeat the fear of death and welcome the death of fear.")
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"A judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the year 2027. What are they hiding?"

The fact that he was a ventriloquist’s dummy for a pack of commies who were out not to produce racial justice, but to exacerbate America's racial problems to the benefit of the USSR.


9 posted on 01/01/2006 12:53:55 AM PST by dsc (Islamic sexual violence against women should be treated as the repressive epidemic it is.)
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To: Monterrosa-24

I'm not a king expert. But from what I know, he had ties to the ACP because they preached equality etc. However, when approached by the hardcore boys, he turned them down. They were a little baffled by the fact that he didn't want to bring down America, but rather lead his people to equal standing. Probably that is what all that "place at the table" stuff was about.

On the other side, Hoover probably had good reason to wiretap him since he didn't know what the guy's real objectives were, right?

So, King has both sides looking real carefully at him.


Also, Hoover wasn't a tranvestite. That's been long disproved.


10 posted on 01/01/2006 12:54:28 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ncountylee
The transvestite/gay lobby will go nuts.

Great reply!

11 posted on 01/01/2006 12:55:00 AM PST by Cementjungle
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To: njpa

Check out the book The Sword and the Shield. He drove the USSR nuts to the point of planting stories to discredit him...


13 posted on 01/01/2006 1:01:10 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ncountylee

Hoover was portrayed as gay by the left wing people who were his enemies. They said Joe McCarthy was gay back in the fifties. The lefties hate him cause he knew what they were up to. What kind of water is Dan Burton drinking? Did the Clinton's bashing of him do something? I see Hoover as a hero compared to weasly liberal-lefties in the rest of the government (State Department and other places over the years).


14 posted on 01/01/2006 1:09:36 AM PST by Nextrush (Paul Martin:Putting life into crime)
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To: Nextrush

History is more complicated than headlines.


15 posted on 01/01/2006 1:16:09 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: njpa
A judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the year 2027. What are they hiding?

The FBI recorded audio tapes that captured MLK's extra-marital sex-life. They were not careful to keep this material private. At one point when Robert Kennedy was attorney general, the tapes were played at a party. This material was also part of FBI attempts to blackmail King. Probably lawyers acting on behalf of the King estate have successfully argued that these recordings were a violation of King's privacy and should be sealed for as long as possible.

16 posted on 01/01/2006 1:29:47 AM PST by wideminded
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To: wideminded

How come I never get invited to parties like that?


17 posted on 01/01/2006 1:33:26 AM PST by durasell (!)
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To: ncountylee

ON HIS MAJESTY'S CLANDESTINE SERVICES AND
THE DAMAGE CAUSED BY ALDRICH AMES WE CAN ONLY SAY... HANG'EM...


18 posted on 01/01/2006 1:53:51 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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To: ncountylee

I wouldn't mind them changing the name of the building to:

The Pinkerton Detective Agency.


19 posted on 01/01/2006 2:00:06 AM PST by Chewbacca (Not all men are fools. The smart ones are still bachelors.)
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To: njpa
A judge has sealed the FBI files on King until the year 2027. What are they hiding?

I've been asking this same question for almost 20 years. I wonder why some enterprising journalist doesn't try to find out.

Why does the general public have to wait until 2027 to discover that we had a national holiday named after a Communist stooge?

20 posted on 01/01/2006 2:04:34 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (If Terrorists could vote, John Kerry would be President today.)
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