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Posted on 12/31/2005 11:37:23 AM PST by george76
Next week, Idaho Gov. Dirk Kempthorne and U.S. Interior Secretary Gale Norton are expected to sign an agreement that would place management of an estimated 500 grey wolves into state, rather than federal, hands.
The agreement would give ranchers permission to eliminate wolves that harass livestock.
It also would empower state wildlife managers to pick off wolf packs that make a dent in the state's deer and elk populations.
The wolf's revival in Idaho started a decade ago when officials released 35 wolves into central Idaho. Their numbers have grown steadily since then.
Federal rules have carefully prescribed when ranchers could act against wolves, requiring ranchers to catch wolves attacking or eating livestock before they could kill them.
The new Idaho rules will give locals more latitude, but some residents would like see an even greater offensive against the animal.
Ron Gillett, head of the Idaho Anti-Wolf Coalition, wants to "immediately remove them by whatever means are necessary."
"They kill everything, all of the game first, then the predators, then each other," he said, adding that they are outsiders.
"These are Canadian wolves," Gillett said.
"The only place they belong in Idaho is in a zoo, neutered."
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The Feds did not re-introduce American wolves to America.
They introduced Canadian Wolves to America.
It was the DUmmies in the US Fish and Wildlife Service that did the dirty work. Thanks to Clinton and friends.
These same DUmmies were caught with lynx pelt parts from one pelt...claiming many different pelts from different states. Their goal was to close out millions of acres of public lands.
Which is working nicely for them...Many new wilderness areas.
You're singing to the choir, buddy. I ratinalize it this way; when people were settling the west, ammo was very expensive and they did not shoot critters just for giggles.
I have exercised a couple of permits over the years. Never a pleasure, but always a relief.
The problem is of course the chain of evidence.
The rancher must first prove harassment. He must then prove with reliable evidence that the shot wolf was in fact the harassing wolf. In the event cattle are killed, there must be reliable DNA evidence linking the shot wolf to the dead cattle. Paw prints or plaster casts of paw prints are unreliable ant will not stand up in court.
A Canadian wolf is to be considered as migratory and may not be killed under any circumstances because of the migratory mammals treaty of 1934.
"Liberals love predators...and favor them...both the four and two legged variety because they destroy what men work hard for."
Best analysis of the liberal mindset that I've ever read.
"The Times of London provides advice.........."
>>>>>Damn coyotes are bad enough...
I've heard one theory is that the wolves used to keep the coyotes down. Supposedly the coyotes didn't used to range across North America. The wolves could and did run them down and kill them.
Job security for the US Fish and Wildlife Service.
Paid to do the introduction,
then paid to do the management...
Paycheck for life.
Ranchers in Wyoming complain that they do not get paid for their lost sheep nor cattle...
unless the wildlife officer sees the wolves actually kill the cattle.
It is not enough proof that the wolves are eating the livestock and that their are wolf foot prints and blood everywhere.
I knew a liberal couple (apartment neighbors) in their late twenties who moved to San Diego from MA, and wouldn't you know it, the boyfriend says he likes to have "a little coke on occasion". I said, "Are you kidding me? You're not even concerned with possibly, say, having a heart attack and dying?" He said, "If that happened, c'est la vie." I replied, "So you would be willing to trade possibly fifty years of your own life, for a few moments of 'fun'?" He just repeated, "C'est la vie."
Amazing. I haven't heard from them in a year since they moved, thankfully. About the "hating God" part, they told me that they didn't like some people I know because they "were too churchy." I must be too, thank God.
Unfortunately, she is a, you guessed it, school teacher who thinks her little darlings are so cute the way they don't speak English.
The really strange thing to me, was when I met her parents from Brooklyn. Her father was, you guessed again, a pot-smoking lawyer. What occurred to me was that he was, in fact, a real-life "RDDB" as Michael Savage calls them. Now, I don't really care for Savage that much, so I hope I can avoid having responses like, "Michael Weiner (his real name)..." as though it's somehow clever to point out he has a "stage name" as do innumerable radio personalities. So, he's bombastic, often irrational, maniacal and belligerent, but one thing he does right is recognize who the enemy is, since he actually had been an "RDDB" himself.
Once the wolves realize people shoot at them; they stay away from communites; but gonna be hard to stop them killin livestock.
If we set it up as some sort of sight-seenig trip, yes.
Use the title from the articles in a google search and see what liberals are saying. One site equted shooting lions with the death penalty's senseless machismo. Go figure.
"I don't feel any trust with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service," commissioner Marie Fontaine added.
"Ed Bangs said they didn't realize they were on private land ... there are so many questions."
Kruger said the wildlife agents appeared to be "hiding in the bushes under a high bank by a road" when he drove past and spotted them.
The tranquilized wolves were lying nearby.
"If you have nothing to hide, why are you out there hiding?" French asked.
"Did those two guys fall from the sky with a wolf under each arm?"
http://www.codyenterprise.com/articles/2004/03/02/news/news2.txt
.....unless the wildlife officer sees the wolves actually kill the cattle........
You have verified what my previous bogus post suspected.
Wolves are more difficult to convict then human criminals.
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Wiley Coyotte better watch his ass. He may be getting a .308 round between his eyes. About time the state tells the Feds fungoo.
This is real. Unfortuantely it is always Gillete and the other guy who are quoted. They are very radical against wolves. Of course noone ever quotes the extremeist enviros who want people's homes taken awy and all livestock removed to prevent problems for their speicies of choice.
This is the carrot given to Idaho for having an "acceptable" plan for managing wolves. Montana's is similar. The previous law, and the one Wyoming must still abide by says that a wolf can only be killed or "harrassed" in the act of KILLING.
Wyoming's plan has not been accepted because we call wolves "predators", can you believe such a horrendous thing? I must admit we also want to treat them like predators too and shoot them.
When wolves were hauled from Canada to Yellowstone and to Idaho in 1995 and 96, they were to be delisted when there were 30 packs in the 3 states, actually they first started with 10 packs per state, then changed it to make all three states liable. Now they admit to over 100 packs and close to a thousand wolves. Delisting is nowhere on the horizon.
Wyoming must have it's 10 packs outside of Yellowstone NP, and when they wrote the plan they designated 5 members as a pack, 2 breeding adults and 3 pups, the feds insist on 6 per pack.
By the way there is no specific plan to reimburse the states for the management of these animals. On top of that the same three states are being blessed with an abundance of grzzlies that are also on the ESA. Interestingly enough their management is entirely seperate and unrelated to wolves, each have to be managed for maximum numbers.
Actually I believe the number of children killed by wolves in India in recent history is something on the order of 40. John J. Audoubon recorded one of the member of his party being killed by a wolf. This is never mentioned, and I would think he could be considered credible.
The Yellowstone wolves are very habituated to humans.
Wolves seldom kill bison even in Yellowstone. They do kill a lot of elk.
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