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How the Anti-Evolution Debate Has Evolved
History News Network ^ | 20 December 2005 | Charles A. Israel

Posted on 12/30/2005 2:29:22 PM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: RaceBannon
See? Evolution is incompatible wit the Bible...

And once again, evolutionists admit it.

So does the Discovery Institute...

The objective [of the Wedge Strategy] is to convince people that Darwinism is inherently atheistic, thus shifting the debate from creationism vs. evolution to the existence of God vs. the non-existence of God. From there people are introduced to 'the truth' of the Bible and then 'the question of sin' and finally 'introduced to Jesus.'

-- Phillip Johnson

...so it's down to the atheists versus the fundamentalists, I guess.

:(


161 posted on 12/31/2005 6:58:18 PM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: PatrickHenry

I know the list is long already, but how about,

"It was from peer accepted books, and therefore MUST be considered accurate by evolutionists"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549524/posts?page=151#151

for Your Brain On Creationism?


162 posted on 12/31/2005 6:59:46 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: forsnax5

Serious here...

Who is Phillip Johnson? Can't be the architect by the same name. That's one of the most disturbing things I've read in a long time...


163 posted on 12/31/2005 7:01:06 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: RaceBannon
"Wow, the anti-Christian bias coming from your post makes yo sound irrational."

?? I said you were not being very Christian because you refuse to do me the courtesy of answering my points, after I went through a lot of trouble answering all of yours. I stand by that. I am not the one acting anti-Christian.

"And I dont care what Etheridge wrote. The post stands."

lol YOU were the one who posted his quote as evidence against Darwin! Now you don't even care if it was accurate? Hey, Mary Mapes, is that you?
164 posted on 12/31/2005 7:03:18 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: durasell
Who is Phillip Johnson?

http://www.arn.org/authors/johnson.html

165 posted on 12/31/2005 7:06:54 PM PST by forsnax5 (The greatest problem in communication is the illusion that it has taken place.)
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To: forsnax5

Fascinating, thanks.

He's one dangerous dude.


166 posted on 12/31/2005 7:09:25 PM PST by durasell (!)
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To: RaceBannon
As you can see, it is far more than a bias RaceBannon.

These crude little knuckle-heads you are dealing with are examples of the best minds this little cult can produce /sarc>

Now, all can see this has nothing to do with Christianity, but that you are dealing with the sorts that don't comprehend anything other than a virtual rhetorical 2x4 across the head.

You've got 2/3ds of your brain tied behind you back and we know its damn uncomfortable for you. But hey, if they ping the whole list on you maybe you go with only half your brain tied up.

Wolf
167 posted on 12/31/2005 7:47:03 PM PST by RunningWolf (Vet US Army Air Cav 1975)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman

I don't suppose Race cares to answer #141.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1549524/posts?page=141#141

He bragged he hasn't dodged any questions, but there it stands.


168 posted on 12/31/2005 7:58:59 PM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: js1138
He hasn't answered anybody's questions, don't think you're special. :)

Just another creationist who makes outrageous statements, gets called on them, and starts whining like a Democrat about how unfair it is, and we all support Hitler, and "I don't have to answer you because I quoted peer accepted books, so I can't be wrong!!" Blah Blah Blah. It really doesn't get much funnier than this. He doesn't know it, but he has made my New Year's Eve. :)
169 posted on 12/31/2005 8:06:40 PM PST by CarolinaGuitarman ("There is grandeur in this view of life...")
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To: RaceBannon
And I dont care what Etheridge wrote.

If you ever wonder why I (and others) won't bother with your BS, here's your answer. You "don't care" about your lies. You post a blatant obfuscation (you probably don't even know that there is indeed a gentleman named N(iles) Etheridge who is a real contemporary evolutionist, so by posting a century + old quote by someone else, and not apologizing for it, YOU ARE LYING.

You must be a real joy to be around.
170 posted on 12/31/2005 8:12:11 PM PST by whattajoke (I'm back... kinda.)
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To: RaceBannon
See? Evolution is incompatible wit the Bible... And once again, evolutionists admit it

If you can extract that interpretation from my posting, you clearly have an active fantasy life.

171 posted on 12/31/2005 9:13:12 PM PST by blowfish
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To: durasell
Shop around. Choose wisely. Seek out the one that attracts the hottest chicks.

Since I'm married, my criteria will be:


172 posted on 12/31/2005 9:15:47 PM PST by blowfish
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To: RaceBannon
It's obvious that you were so intimidated by CarolinaGuitarman's total demolishing of your original argument that you had to flee from it like a coward and hide with a shamelessly dishonest and totally irrelevant reference to Hitler. Now you throw Bible verses at me, all because you're too afraid to admit that you used poor and easily debunked claims. How utterly spineless of you.

I don't care to deal with cowards, especially dishonest ones like you. Have a nice day.
173 posted on 12/31/2005 9:27:36 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: Dimensio
Any links?

*****HAPPY NEW YEAR*****

God made it all possible through evolution!

174 posted on 12/31/2005 9:30:47 PM PST by Baraonda (Demographic is destiny. Don't hire 3rd world illegal aliens nor support businesses that hire them.)
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To: ThomasNast
I'd like to see a scientific study to discover the origins of Symphony #40 in G Minor.

Of course, to ensure the science is preserved in its entirety, we must assume from the onset that there was no composer involved.

Very nicely put. Of course, it is ovious by the evidence that it evolved from Sypmhony #39. There is only a 2% difference in the notes they both contain.

175 posted on 12/31/2005 9:34:10 PM PST by GSHastings
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To: canuck_conservative
That's why I know you'll agree with me that the "MARTIANS-ACTUALLY-CREATED-US" theory must be taught as well, along with Evolution and Intelligent Design.

After all, there's no way to disprove it, so it's just as valid as well, right?

Did I miss something really big? Did all of the millions of tax payer money being wasted looking for evidence that life "evolved" on Mars actually pay off? There really are Martians? WOW!

Then I guess we really can't prove that Martians didn't evolve first, and then they created life on Earth.

176 posted on 12/31/2005 9:43:14 PM PST by GSHastings
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To: Dimensio
At this point your analogy falls apart, as science has no such assumption when invesitgating the origins of either life or the cosmos.

Maybe science doesn't, but Evolutionist sure do. Of course, we don't want to confuse the two.

If science can't deal with the possibility of a creator, then possibly it is science which is lacking. Maybe science needs to pull it's collective head out of its ar$e, and smell the coffee.

177 posted on 12/31/2005 9:49:48 PM PST by GSHastings
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To: Ichneumon
Please present your evidence which supports the conclusion that the Universe is a "created thing". We'll wait.

You don't have to wait long

All around you, you can see complicated items, which have function and purpose. They can be proven without a doubt to have been created by intelligent beings.

Please present your evidence which supports the conclusion that the most complicated and purposeful items known (living things) have been spontaneously constructed by time and chance.

178 posted on 12/31/2005 9:53:57 PM PST by GSHastings
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To: GSHastings
Maybe science doesn't, but Evolutionist sure do.

No, they don't. You're mistaking "not finding any evidence for a creator whatsoever" with "assuming that there is no creator".
179 posted on 12/31/2005 9:58:40 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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To: GSHastings
All around you, you can see complicated items, which have function and purpose. They can be proven without a doubt to have been created by intelligent beings.

Well, you can't say "without a doubt", but you can say that there's strong evidence for the claim.

Please present your evidence which supports the conclusion that the most complicated and purposeful items known (living things) have been spontaneously constructed by time and chance.

You're assuming that living things have an inherent purpose.
180 posted on 12/31/2005 9:59:28 PM PST by Dimensio (http://angryflower.com/bobsqu.gif <-- required reading before you use your next apostrophe!)
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