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"true -- isolated incidents --which doesn't make it less gruesome, but you need to ask yourself: are all Christians all over India mis-treated?"

No, but many are persecuted, the Hindus look down on them. Just because the persecution isnt on the scale of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia does not mean the Hindus are the blameless, faultless golden people that you make them out to be.

"ok, so do YOU think the KKK are paragons of Christianity? I don't and I stand by that statement."

NO, I DONT think the KKK are a Christian group. I never said I did. What does that have to do with anything?

I mentioned nothing of the KKK, I simply informed you that sectretasianman won't be replying anytime soon as he was just ejected like a Iraqi pilot from a MiG-29. And I can't say I miss him, since the only thing he could contribute to the discussion was vicious insults.

I did not mention the kkk, your logic doesnt follow.

"Yes, you are -- you are insulting our Hindu friends by calling them demon-worshippers."

"our"?

What do you consider Kali?

"you can call them pagans (Pagan = follower of a non-Christian belief system), you can call their gods false gods, "

I can call them what I deem to be fitting.

No, but many are persecuted, the Hindus look down on them.

Many? Give numbers and percentages and look at the areas where the persecution happens. Sukhoi's an Indian Christian from the south and seems extremely Indo-patriotic and yet very Christian. The South and West of India has significant Christian communities who have integrated very well with their fellows and are treated as equals (as opposed to Muslimes who seem to antagonise everyone) -- witness Kerala or Goa or the Konkan part of Karnataka or Bombay. The North has a patchy record -- places like Delhi and Punjab have had no persecutions while Orissa had that terrible incident in which a pastor and his two sons were burned to death (note: the guy who did that was given a death sentence by the Indian govt and nearly all Hindus condemned the sicko). The East is at least 25% Christian with Christian majority states like Mizoram.

Just because the persecution isnt on the scale of Pakistan or Saudi Arabia does not mean the Hindus are the blameless, faultless golden people that you make them out to be.

Did I call them "blameless, faultless golden people"? No, I didn't, that's what you made up -- stop making your assumptions based on no facts. There are Hindu lunatics and idiots who want Christians out -- and I consider them despicable. I also think the same of Christians who start a "Hindu raus" movement telling Hindus to "go back home". Tex has said this and I consider that reprehensible. You can't say that and then condemn Hindu fanatics for saying the opposite (Christians raus) -- thankfully the overwhelming majority of Christians and Hindus around the world don't act that way.

Secondly, the persecutions are nowhere NEAR the scale in Pakiland or Saudia or any Muslime land -- the percentages would be in fractions of a percent with the majority of Christians living well and doing well -- as I said there are areas in India (like Bihar) that are, to put it bluntly, cess-pits and you can't condemn the entire nation for these places (it would be like condemning the entire nation for electing Clintooon).

Thirdly, the difference is public perception: when Christians were persecuted, the overwhelming majority of Hindus stood up and criticised the actions, condemned them and VOTED OUT THE PARTY THAT SUPPORTED THIS. The Hindus then condemned the killers to death. In MuslimeLand, these actions are celebrated. In the US, after 9/11, a Sikh was killed by idiots who mistook him for a Muslime. That incident was condemned(rightly) by all Americans. That's the glory of America. Ditto for India. The Muslimy world on the contrary glorifies killers of women and Children.

I can call them what I deem to be fitting.

Nope, you can't. If you persist with your barbs, you alienate people and will set up barriers to Christ's Word -- and that's being anti-Christian. I had pointed out in an earlier post that I would consider Kali demonic, by her actions and the deeds expected however, this article is about Krishna: all Hindus don't worship all their 33 million gods and goddesses -- Hinduism is very much a choose and pick kind of meta-religion, so your condemnation of all Hindus for the beliefs of one group is wrong.