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To: A. Pole
Just look at the number of Christians in Turkey at the times of Kemal Pasha Ataturk getting into power, in middle of XX century and today. Turks do better jobs of eradicating Christianity that Saudis. But you would wipe out Christians out of the world map if it could hurt Russians.

Whatever you think about Ataturk, he is death and Turkey is more democratic than Russia. They don’t use repression towards Roman Catholics like the Russians do. Beside the Turks weren’t that bad if Polokonez, the Polish village near Istanbul remained Catholic (with Catholic church) since XVIII century.

Your mind is fixed by Mickiewicz and his occult ideas naively indoctrinated in Polish schools. You do not have even a clue about it, but this is the secret of irrational hatred of Russia so wide spread in Poland.

Your problem is that you support Russian imperialism even over good of Polish state. You falsely accusing Mickiewicz that he was anti-Russian while ignoring the fact that he wrote for example such lyrics as “Do Przyjaciól Moskali” (To the Russian friends). Mickiewicz condemned Tsarist despotism not the Russian nation.

246 posted on 12/31/2005 6:15:21 AM PST by Lukasz
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To: Lukasz
Whatever you think about Ataturk, he is death and Turkey is more democratic than Russia.

I did not talk about Ataturk (who was a nasty and cruel dictator). I talked about time span from Ataturk to now - to show how the number of Christians went from millions to almost none today. Even if only thousands are left now, this process still CONTINUES.

They don’t use repression towards Roman Catholics like the Russians do.

There are few Catholics in Turkey if any. Most of Christians were Armenians and Greeks.

Beside the Turks weren’t that bad if Polokonez, the Polish village near Istanbul remained Catholic (with Catholic church) since XVIII century.

Indeed, there is such village. In your eyes if Turks spare one Polish village it balances out the genocide committed on Armenian and Greek Christians. How biased you can be?

You falsely accusing Mickiewicz that he was anti-Russian while ignoring the fact that he wrote for example such lyrics as “Do Przyjaciól Moskali” (To the Russian friends).

In this case Mickiewicz still hoped for bloody revolution in Russia (the one like came hundred years later). By "friends" he meant potential revolutionaries. Mickiewicz was an occult international revolutionary at the time when proto-Communism and proto-Nazism were being formed together with other poisonous anti-Chistan movements.

He wanted to overthrow the Christian civilization from inside, through art and poetry. He dreamed about the power over people minds and control over Polish culture ("Rzad dusz"). If you read carefully his writing you will notice the motive of a treasonous leader whose objective to destroy Christians (Grenada - a false convert who infects Christians with plague, Walenrod a secret pagan who leads crusaders into the destruction and more ...)

The main reason why the revolutionary enemies of the Church turned against Russia was the defeat of Napoleon and establishment of Holy Alliance. From this moment Russia became the bulwark of "reaction". Mickiewicz was the key figure who managed ti instill this attitude in Poland.

The remedy for him is Krasinski, Prus and some later writers.

247 posted on 12/31/2005 6:57:21 AM PST by A. Pole (If the lettuce cutters were paid $10 more per hour, the lettuce head would cost FIVE CENTS more!)
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To: Lukasz; Timedrifter; Alex-DV; ValenB4; truemiester; anonymoussierra; zagor-te-nej; ...
Beside the Turks weren’t that bad if Polokonez, the Polish village near Istanbul remained Catholic (with Catholic church) since XVIII century.

Ahh, our EU troll is back shilling for islamics again. Just like he has done numerously for the Bosniaks and Albanians.

Yes, I'm sure the 500,000 Armenians, 500,000 Assyrians, 2 million Iotolan Greeks and 100,000 Cypriot Greeks (these were in 1973) killed by your friends the "secular post Ottoman" Turks had it coming to them, after all they were nothing but filthy Eastern Orthodox Christians, nothing for you to worry about. Just like your Balkan buddies were killing.

But then again, the Turks have also butchered 58,000 Kurds in the last 20 years, so who's surprised?

Let the hate flow, we know it's filled your heart.

264 posted on 12/31/2005 12:06:48 PM PST by jb6 (The Atheist/Pagan mind, a quandary wrapped in egoism and served with a side order of self importance)
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