Posted on 12/29/2005 4:24:45 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
The campaign against the alleged harassment of Hindus in Russia by the Orthodox Church and the Mayor of Moscow is getting more intense in Britain.
Ashok Kumar, MP is launching the "Defend Russian Hindus Campaign" at the House of Commons in January.
There was umbrage here when it was learnt that Archbishop Nikon wrote a letter to the Mayor of Moscow urging him not to allow the construction of a Hindu temple in Moscow because according to him, Lord Krishna who is worshipped by the Hindu community was an "evil demon".
"Such untenable words in an age where interfaith harmony is the need of the day are nothing but an attempt to malign and persecute a faith community that teaches respect and freedom for every other faith community, " commented Ramesh Kallidai, Secretary General Hindu Forum of Britain, an umbrella organisation of most community groups in Britain.
The Defend Russian Hindus Campaign, launched by the Hindu Forum of Britain, Hindu Council UK, National Council of Hindu Temples UK, International Society for Krishna Consciousness, Vishwa Hindu Parishad UK, Hindu Council of Australia, Hindu American Foundation and many other worldwide Hindu organisations, aims to build awareness about the alleged persecution and discrimination against Russian Hindus by a corpus of the Russian Orthodox Church and the Mayor of Moscow, despite support from the Central Government.
There are over 100,000 Hindus in Russia. In Moscow alone, there are 5,000 Hindus of Indian origin and over 10,000 Hindus of Russian origin.
Two years ago the Mayor of Russia asked Hindus to vacate their temple in exchange for a piece of land on which they could build a bigger temple. After land was allocated to the Hindu temple, the original temple was demolished. The Russian Orthodox Church orchestrated mass protests against the allocation of land and started a misinformation campaign against Hindus in the media.
On October 30, 2005, after bowing down to pressure from the Orthodox Church, the Mayor of Moscow cancelled the land order and took away the piece of land given for the construction of the Hindu temple. Now, the 15,000 Hindus in Moscow have no place to worship. The consecrated Deities of Radha and Krishna will have no home, say the Hindu leaders.
Kallidai said around the time of India Prime Minister's state visit to Moscow to meet Russian President Putin, Archbishop Nikon, a leader of the Russian Orthodox Church, called the Hindu God, Lord Krishna an "evil demon, the personified power of hell opposing God", and "a livid lascivious youth".
"but nearly ALL Hindus condemn that ideology."
Well, there are other evil elements, too.
"Hindus should be allowed to worship -- they allow Christians to worship in India -- all 25 million Christians there."
Do they now?
I seem to recall hearing that Christians are persecuted in India, in many cases violently.
"You really do not know what you talk about do you? That statement is a LIE."
Um, no it's true.
Unfortunately, secretasianman won't be answering your post. He was bounced. Where's my hanky? Snifle, Sniffle,I'm tearing up.
I actually think that post (232) is probably what got secretasianman his early checkout.
"Tex and HiOT aren't acting Christian at all, more like Mohammedans in their zeal to attack everyone. That's shameful."
You have no right to tell us we're not acting Christian. WE aren't the ones insulting people.
Please see post 232.
like what?
"well, quite frankly, there's no definition of a "true Hindu" -- at one level, everyone of Indian origin is a Hindu, by culture and thinking -- Hinduism doesn't confine itself to a bottle, you can have near athiests (arya samaj) as Hindus right up to near Christians who would believe everything that's Christian and may occasionally worship other deities."
Hmmmm, you are probably right. Maybe I was talking about an average Hindu.
Cronos: "like what?"
HiOT: "Like....like....I dunno.... but still they are all evil, demon worshipping pagans! Thats what I have been indoctrinated ! Hinduism is evil! False Gods! Pack of lies!...evil! evil!...evil!"
(/sarc)
"I can explain to a Hindu friend that I don't believe in his gods and goddesses but I believe in only ONE God. My Hindu friend would say that he believes that all paths lead to God and that he/she worships Christ as one of the manifestations of God."
Hindus also believe in only one God, just that we believe there are many paths to reach Him.
Even if that statistic is true(it should be higher, because of India's sheer population), what evidence is that those dalit women are raped by non-dalit men? Dalits are literally "outcasts" and live in their own communities. It sounds more like a maoist cooking up a story to make upper-castes rapists and murderers. At least in Nepal that is the case(and ironically, Maoist leadership is made up of 60% upper castes).
Also, regarding demons, it is interesting that Krishna was the one who declared this age(known as Kali Yuga) is the age of demons and there will be new religions and prophets who are nothing but devil incarnate, and Krishna will reincarnate himself to kill these demons.
Bhagavad Gita 4:8 http://vedabase.net/bg/4/8/
"To deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I Myself appear, millennium after millennium."
I have read some fundamentalist hindus nuts who take that literally and, since Christianity and Islam started in the Kali Yuga, they are evil and that Krishna will someday reincarnate as Kalki and cleanse earth of evil(Christians and Muslims).
Religious nuts on both sides.
Russia doesn't play by our rules....maybe they don't....
Maybe you should be willing to stand UP for the Cross instead of becoming an ecumenical......
I was refering to the schism, and the heresies the Latins still retain.....
Gengis:
You have EXACTLY spelled out the problem: Jesus said "I am the way, the truth, and the life, NO man cometh to the Father except thru ME"
He didn't say there were many paths, ONLY ONE!
Well BJ..my family has been here as long as yours. I also had two ancestors that fought for the Confederacy for this state, along with 60,000 other loyal Texans that fought for their constitutional rights during that war.
You are the one that seems to be clueless, MY moniker refers to my belief in States-Rights, not a wish for a re-birth of the Confederacy.
The point is there should not be outcast communities nor religious tenant that permit visiting any sin you wish on a group of outcasts.
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