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Al-Qaida operative became fountain of information for U.S.
http://www.kansas.com ^ | Posted on Wed, Dec. 28, 2005 | BY JOHN CREWDSON

Posted on 12/29/2005 12:12:02 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK

Al-Qaida operative became fountain of information for U.S.

BY JOHN CREWDSON Chicago Tribune

Moral and legal aspects aside, conventional wisdom is that torture simply isn't practical: that someone who is being tortured will say anything to make the torture stop, and that information gleaned through torture is therefore not reliable.

Some former military and intelligence officers say, however, that physically aggressive interrogation techniques that some human rights groups consider torture can be effective in the short term. When asked for specifics, the technique they cite is "waterboarding," in which water is poured over a subject's face to create the sensation of drowning. Consider Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, the 39-year-old former al-Qaida operative who was the Sept. 11 mastermind and bearer of many al-Qaida secrets.

If anyone had a motive for remaining silent it was the man known to terrorism investigators as "KSM." But not long after his capture in Pakistan, in March 2003, KSM began to talk.

He ultimately had so much to say that more than 100 footnoted references to the CIA's interrogations of KSM are contained in the final report of the commission that investigated Sept. 11.

Not that everything KSM said was believable. But much of his information checked out in separate questioning of other captures al-Qaida figures. What made KSM decide to talk? The answer may be waterboarding, to which KSM was subjected on at least one occasion, according to various accounts.

Intelligence operatives point out that while waterboarding can break through a suspect's initial resistance, it isn't effective for long-term interrogation.

Once a suspect begins to communicate, however, an interrogation specialist can put into action a wide range of far more subtle techniques, which include playing to a subject's ego or pretending to be his friend.

(Excerpt) Read more at kansas.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: gwot; intelligence; khalidmohammed; khalidshaikhmohammed; khalidsmohammed; ksm

1 posted on 12/29/2005 12:12:03 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Of course. Why do you think our domestic traitors are against "aggressive interrogation"? Because they know it works. And that might mean the US might win. And make Bush look good. And that's the torture they fear the most.


2 posted on 12/29/2005 12:14:02 PM PST by samtheman
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub

Shameless self absorbed torturous PING


3 posted on 12/29/2005 12:14:20 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

But what about his Fifth Amendment rights?








* I'm kidding.


4 posted on 12/29/2005 12:14:25 PM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK; 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub; mhking; Memother; Alamo-Girl; chesty_puller; GRRRRR; ...

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5 posted on 12/29/2005 12:16:46 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (secus acutulus exspiro ab Acheron bipes actio absol ab Acheron supplico)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I wonder what other methods are used?

I mean jeez, with drugs today, you could convice one of these monsters they were talking to Bin Laden himself and spill all his guts.



6 posted on 12/29/2005 12:22:12 PM PST by Names Ash Housewares
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To: Names Ash Housewares

I love the "drugs" idea,that's an interrogation technique that the libs and Hollyweanies would probably love,because they're all convinced of a lot of stuff that's "real" on their drugs too!! That way all of the terrorists and libs,of our world could commune and "brainstorm" together, {meantime, we could corral them all and shoot them into outer space,they would be too busy trying to fix the world to notice!!!}Yep,I like the drug idea,good one.


7 posted on 12/29/2005 1:19:13 PM PST by 911angelady
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

I hope they did not offend this poor soul.


8 posted on 12/29/2005 1:57:14 PM PST by hophead ("Enjoy Every Sandwich")
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
From the story, a tidbit:
KSM said bin Laden's No. 2, Ayman al-Zawahiri, opposed the Sept. 11 attacks, disagreeing with bin Laden over whether to honor the request of Afghanistan's Taliban leader, Mullah Omar, not to attack the United States.

Seems they weren't always singing from the same sheet of music back then. I've noticed lately we're hearing more from al-Z than from bin Laden. We know what bin Laden did with those in his way; I wonder if al Z shared this leadership style? Could this explain bin Laden's silence?

(I read this on Lucianne earlier and the implication was made by another, so credit goes to them. I'm glad you posted this article.)

9 posted on 12/29/2005 2:29:59 PM PST by tsomer
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Sang like a Bird did he? Good.


10 posted on 12/29/2005 3:18:41 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

11 posted on 12/29/2005 3:21:13 PM PST by Alouette (Happy Hanukkah FReepers!)
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To: Alouette

Oh wow, you could have gotten info out this guy with a couple of hot wax treatments!


12 posted on 12/29/2005 5:03:45 PM PST by Max in Utah (By their works you shall know them.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

IIRC this is the guy who took a bullet in the groin during his capture. In a society that is so male and sex organ centric as Arab societies are, I am guessing that said injury, the threat of more, and/or the promise of repairs were probably more effective in wringing this guy dry than any waterboarding.

I'm not Arab but a bullet in the wahoo would have my undivided attention. Threatening me with another bullet or threatening to not treat my injury would tend to make me willing to cooperate. And using the "$6 million man" promise of rebuilding him bigger, better, stronger? Well, tell me what you want to know. I'm not gonna lie cuz I know you're gonna check it out and I want you to keep your promise of turning my wounded wonder worm into a burka bustin zipperzilla.


13 posted on 12/29/2005 5:46:07 PM PST by NerdDad (Do not sacrifice for today's wants that which you will always need: Honor, Integrity, Respect)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Remember the captured Iraqi who knew about attacks coming against American soldiers? An American officer fired a gun next to him, scaring him into talking. It saved American lives. Of course our Army responded by bringing charges against him. The net is that intimidation worked. So much for the "it doesn't work" assertion.


14 posted on 12/29/2005 7:30:37 PM PST by Dilbert56
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To: Max in Utah
Oh wow, you could have gotten info out this guy with a couple of hot wax treatments!

Actually, I was leaning towards duct tape. Or else a bottle of Nair.

15 posted on 12/29/2005 8:19:15 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK

Thanks for the ping!


16 posted on 12/29/2005 10:50:18 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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