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Tracking a genetic link to sexuality
FT. Wayne News-Sentinel, Knight Ridder Newspapers ^ | 12/29/05 | Faye Flam

Posted on 12/29/2005 10:21:24 AM PST by Dane

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huh, a homosexual geneticist, looking for the "gay gene", can anybody say agenda and scientific bias.

Also this from a London Times article from today about Lord Tennyson's great-grandson.

"Margo and I had a tremendously happy marriage and our sexual relations were adequate. Indeed, my wife thought they were more than adequate."

Man arrested over murder of Tennyson's gay great-grandson

1 posted on 12/29/2005 10:21:25 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane

Insanity is hereditary. You get it from your kids.


2 posted on 12/29/2005 10:23:10 AM PST by samtheman
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Are homosexuals "born gay"? I don't know. Maybe. But if they are and it is proven with the discovery of the "gay gene" the liberals are going to have a real conundrum on their hands.

Which idol will they remain beholden to when people start aborting babies with the gay gene for that reason alone. Will they hold true to the abortion at all costs crowd, or will they hold true to the gay activists?

It is going to be fun to watch how they try to straddle that fence.

3 posted on 12/29/2005 10:24:02 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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Either there is no "gay gene" or evolution as a theory is wrong. Pick one, libs, and wake me up when you decide what you believe.


4 posted on 12/29/2005 10:24:30 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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Won't it be exciting news if homosexuality is found to be caused by a genetic malfuncton?! Then we can begin searching for a cure! Perhaps, one day, the world will be free of homosexuals!!!

Oh, you mean, this guy isn't working toward that goal? His agenda is not to help, but to justify this tragic ailment? Drat.

5 posted on 12/29/2005 10:26:24 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Of course sexuality is genetic. Teenagers have always been tryin' to get in each others jeans...........


6 posted on 12/29/2005 10:26:48 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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Since gay activists also tend to be pro-abortion-for-any-reason activists, I wonder what their stance would be if straight couples started to routinely abort fetuses with the "gay gene" markers?


7 posted on 12/29/2005 10:27:27 AM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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It is going to be fun to watch how they try to straddle that (spiked) fence.


8 posted on 12/29/2005 10:27:57 AM PST by Red Badger (And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him)
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Great minds...


9 posted on 12/29/2005 10:28:02 AM PST by LexBaird ("I'm not questioning your patriotism, I'm answering your treason."--JennysCool)
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It seems like many people think the "genetics vs choice" issue will answer all questions regarding "gay rights" policies. I say, not so fast!

Many behaviors may indeed have a genetic component - left-handedness, obesity, alcoholism, etc. Some behaviors are discouraged, others tolerated. Some are deemed to be health risks.

Let's say there's a "gay gene." That does not necessarily answer the many questions currently being discussed. Not by a longshot.

And I'm uncomfortable with the idea that our behavior (whatever it is) is largely the sum of our genetic makeup. Apart from the generalized desire for self-preservation, etc. - don't we have brains for a reason? What about personal responsibility?


10 posted on 12/29/2005 10:28:31 AM PST by cvq3842
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It's not a matter of "orientation" but behavior. Anal sex is not demanded by one's genome.
11 posted on 12/29/2005 10:29:10 AM PST by Tribune7
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"huh, a homosexual geneticist, looking for the "gay gene", can anybody say agenda and scientific bias. "

It's difficult to find any researchers who're not agenda-driven these days. Makes it difficult to trust any published data.
12 posted on 12/29/2005 10:30:44 AM PST by LIConFem (A fronte praecipitium, a tergo lupi.)
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"Either there is no "gay gene" or evolution as a theory is wrong. Pick one, libs, and wake me up when you decide what you believe."


Or the 'gay gene' is a genetic mutation and thus, a disease.


13 posted on 12/29/2005 10:31:29 AM PST by Blzbba ("Shop Smart. Shop S-Mart" - Ashe, Housewares)
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What about personal responsibility?

I'm not sure that Homosexuals carry the gene for that [personal responsibility].

14 posted on 12/29/2005 10:31:30 AM PST by ExcursionGuy84 ("Jesus, Your Love takes my breath away.")
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I remember Rush Limbaugh saying something like this also - although he may not have been the first. he took heat for even thinking of the idea.

Funny how the same people who claim it's "only a lump of tissue" suddenly get so upset when someone like Rush or Bill Bennett uses abortion in a hypothetical, to show how disgusting it sounds. The critics are usually the same people who advocate it for real!


15 posted on 12/29/2005 10:31:42 AM PST by cvq3842
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Anal sex is not demanded by one's genome.

I didm't know lesbians were big on anal sex.

Why does it seem that in such discussions, the other half of the equation is almost always left out?

And gay men aren't the only ones who enjoy anal sex.

And in heterosexual desires, is liking a big butt a learned behaviour? Large breasts? Fat women? Skinny women? A man with chest hair? A man with a six pack? Facial hair?

Are those learned behaviors? Choices? Or is someone born with a predisposition to be attracted to certain things?

16 posted on 12/29/2005 10:32:10 AM PST by Phantom Lord (Fall on to your knees for the Phantom Lord)
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I just want to know how they went about deciding which Oregon rams were exclusively gay?


17 posted on 12/29/2005 10:37:37 AM PST by Tall_Texan (Santa Claus is an illegal alien.)
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"Or the 'gay gene' is a genetic mutation and thus, a disease."

...and since, according to The Thoery of Evolution, all of mankind exists as a result of a series of genetic mutations from apedom, we are all therefore diseased apes. /s

Now go get your own banana!

R3


18 posted on 12/29/2005 10:37:43 AM PST by RedRightReturn (Even a broken clock is right twice a day...)
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If a trait is shared more often by identical twins than by fraternal twins it means there's some genetic component. For men, if one identical twin is gay there's about a 50 percent chance the other will be too. That falls to about 20 percent if they're fraternal. For women, the story is more complicated though science shows biology matters there, too.

Even if you believe the numbers in this statistically insignificant study, it still shows the environment plays an equally important role as genetics.

19 posted on 12/29/2005 10:39:16 AM PST by Always Right
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Hamer is just another Norman Bloom.

"....If enough independent phenomena are studied and correlations sought, some will of course be found. If we know only the coincidences and not the enormous effort and many unsuccessful trials that preceded their discovery, we might believe that an important finding has been made. Actually, it is only what statisticians call 'the fallacy of the enumeration of favorable circumstances'....

Carl Sagan - Norman Bloom, Messenger of God - from Broca's Brain

20 posted on 12/29/2005 10:40:52 AM PST by JoJo Gunn (Help control the Leftist population. Have them spayed or neutered. ©)
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