[Coyoteman]

we really don't KNOW if things are "complex".... or not. "Complex, " -- compared to WhAt? Things could be very simple, or very complex basically. We just don't know.

Science fiction author Arthur C. Clarke formulated three laws: Number 3 states:

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

To this we can add:

Any sufficiently obscure or unexplained natural phenomenon will probably be explained by "God did it!" until science catches up.

At one time thunder was thought to be created by the gods; now we know better.

[grey_whiskers]

At one time thunder was thought to be created by the gods; now we know better.

Directly, or at X number of removes?

According to Red Storm Rising (Tom Clancy), there is such a thing as "man-made thunder" ;-)