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To: Mark Felton

I know about evolutionary programming, i did the same experiment (calculating the value of Pi) when in grad school....here's the problem....

You are guiding the result - YOU are determing (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results.

And supposedly this i done in the "real" world by survival of the fittest, or longer beaks, etc.... this all essentially boils down to intelligent life must exist because it can...

let me ask some simple questions - why has there not been a microrganism evolve that can simply feed on any carbon chain? Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune.

Have you seen the 500 lb land tortoises on Galapagos? Darwin believed they evolved right there on the island. So if you believe in the pea soup to peacok theory of development, an IDENTICAL evolutionary trail must have been established on the other continents to form modern tortouses..... (this is because Galapagous is an island made from igneous extrusion from the sea floor, and 500 lb land tortoises are incapable of swimming from any other landmass).


108 posted on 12/28/2005 4:40:58 PM PST by BereanBrain
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To: BereanBrain; Mark Felton

With all due respect, I realize you spent 25 years developing the Cray super computer, but your logic makes no sense.


111 posted on 12/28/2005 4:46:48 PM PST by phantomworker (I trust my intuition and speak my truth... Don't accuse me of your imagination!)
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To: BereanBrain
why has there not been a microrganism evolve that can simply feed on any carbon chain? Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune

Who is to say that these possibilities won't happen ( or perhaps have happened on this planet or others?). Its all conjecture until someone pokes an eye out.

112 posted on 12/28/2005 4:51:19 PM PST by stacytec (Nihilism, its whats for dinner)
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To: BereanBrain
"let me ask some simple questions - why has there not been a microrganism evolve that can simply feed on any carbon chain?

There was. But they ate themselves.

[All microorganisms are carbon-based due to the very unique atomic properties of carbon.]

Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune."

Humans used to be immortal, then God realized they could refuse to obey and worship Him and made them mortal. Then they could still live for centuries. (in the times of Moses and Abraham...) Then, I believe, Satan created viruses, a pseudo-life form, that infests cells and reduces longevity.

The non-aging stem cells are perhaps residual from the days when God made man immortal.

312 posted on 12/28/2005 8:55:49 PM PST by Mark Felton ("Your faith should not be in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.")
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To: BereanBrain
So if you believe in the pea soup to peacok theory of development, an IDENTICAL evolutionary trail must have been established on the other continents to form modern tortouses..... (this is because Galapagous is an island made from igneous extrusion from the sea floor, and 500 lb land tortoises are incapable of swimming from any other landmass).

Think FedEx, CASTAWAY... ;^)

485 posted on 12/29/2005 6:09:44 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
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To: BereanBrain
I know about evolutionary programming, i did the same experiment (calculating the value of Pi) when in grad school....here's the problem....You are guiding the result - YOU are determing (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results.

Well nature is "guiding the result". Nature is determining (by enforcing a rule) what is "good" and selectively pruning the results. So what exactly is it that enables genetic algorithms to work, but not evolution of species?

Or one that defeats aging? Remember stem cells are aging immune.

Aging is an advantage. It allows parents to be more easily replaced by their offspring, which increases the effectiveness of the algorithm.

501 posted on 12/29/2005 6:28:24 AM PST by bobdsmith
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