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Evolution's Thermodynamic Failure
The American Spectator ^
| December 28, 2005
| Granville Sewell
Posted on 12/28/2005 3:01:53 PM PST by johnnyb_61820
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To: freedumb2003
Getting you people to admit the truth is like pulling teeth. So, how many teeth have you pulled that you are able to make such a comparision with such authority?
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:32:45 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: b_sharp
Just showing saying how accumulated changes result in big differences. MY math teacher used to demand: Show your work!
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:34:00 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Stultis
Your comic book view of evolution (thinking Jack Chick here of course) requires a massive departure from basic tendencies of human nature by the whole of evolutionary science. I detect a subject change here.
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:35:01 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Coyoteman
They seldom study the actual data to see how much evidence there really is. Isn't it about time for Itchy to post the graphic with all the various skulls?
1,264
posted on
01/01/2006 3:38:26 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
So, how many teeth have you pulled that you are able to make such a comparision with such authority? Oh how droll.
You are truly unable to argue. You just toss platitudes. Please get back to me when you have something of substance to contribute. Even sarcasm would be OK, if it is grounded in something and not just random phrases strung together.
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:41:11 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: Dan(9698)
That is not too much to request. Come on Dan; you're mocking them; right?
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:41:24 PM PST
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: xmission
For someone who doesn't know enough about this subject to make an informed decision, I see an awful lot of unanswered questions posed to the evolutionists. Most of the replies are insults only. Point to one unanswered question. A question grounded in an understanding of science and the TOE and not one where htey say "why are there multiple species?" and other specious questions.
Oh, and that has been answered as well.
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posted on
01/01/2006 3:43:53 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: Elsie
I detect a subject change here. I guess I agree that to rationalize the debate a change in human nature will be required, as this suggests.
The whole of evolutionary science is delusional if they think that all their beliefs are scientific.
It is common for someone who has their presumptions questioned, to become defensive and start calling other people names.
People in general do not like to concede that someone else has a valid point of view and they fight like tigers to hold on to a belief that has been shown to be in error.
To: Elsie
Come on Dan; you're mocking them; right? No, I am serious. I freely admit that I don't know everything and that many of my beleifs are based on faith.
I just think it is not too much for the evolutionists to admit that there is much that is unknown and that they fill in the gaps with statements of what they beleive will be shown in the future.
Are they afraid that it will be like when Martin Luthur wrote a statement of his beliefs and nailed it to his church door?
I am sure that they see that action as one they don't want repeated because it made cracks in the Dogma that are still having reprocusions hundreds of years later.
To: Elsie
You ARE saying that Paul was wrong! Yes.
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posted on
01/01/2006 4:08:08 PM PST
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
To: Elsie
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posted on
01/01/2006 4:10:03 PM PST
by
dread78645
(Sorry Mr. Franklin, We couldn't keep it.)
To: Joe Republc; DallasMike
"I'm with you here. I had physics and thermo over 20 years ago. The Second Law of Thermo always had me wondering how it could jibe with Darwinism at life's origins. Just a minor point. Darwinism can't address abiogenesis simply because the mechanisms require life to already exist.
"Aside from snide dismissals, I'm still waiting for a concise, reasonable explanation why one cannot bring up the Second Law of thermo when we are debating if life started from naturalistic, non-intelligent, random forces.
If you want to bring the 2LoT up in an abiogenesis thread I doubt you would get any flack. In an evolution thread however, the discussion of evolution requires us to ask how evolution differs from any other biological process that apparently does not 'break' the 2LoT. We have yet to receive a reply.
Since both of you seem to be well equipped to discuss the 2LoT and abiogenesis, could you explain how the 2LoT prevents the formation of biotic molecules from prebiotic molecules? So far all I have gotten is the assertion that it does. Since I am no expert, please use terminology even I could understand.
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posted on
01/01/2006 4:18:59 PM PST
by
b_sharp
(Science adjusts theories to fit evidence, creationism distorts evidence to fit the Bible.)
To: Dan(9698)
There is nothing wrong in using a statement of belief to explain something that cannot be proven, but they would rather insult other people.
From my reading on this thread and others, I'd say the EVOs that really know what they are discussing seem to be nicer than the followers who generally call you a dope, and really don't discuss much. Every time someone points this out they try to put a sentence or two together with some small point in it, then it's back to calling someone ignorant again.
To: freedumb2003
Point to one unanswered question. A question grounded in an understanding of science and the TOE and not one where htey say "why are there multiple species?" and other specious questions.
I have, and I also noticed that you did not contribute a single tiny part of any of the answers (and thank you to those who did)
Oh, and that has been answered as well.
Yep, but it's pretty much been from you insulting people...
To: xmission
This is a big thread. Whether I posted to you directly is a pretty poor measurement.
Please point to any unanswered questions. I will be happy to help you clear your confusion.
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posted on
01/01/2006 4:44:49 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: freedumb2003
Please point to any unanswered questions. I will be happy to help you clear your confusion.
When I'm ready to ask questions I will ask. Was the "I'm confused" part another snide remark?
To: xmission
No, just an offer of assistance.
So, am I then to understand that you are clear on the TOE and don't have any outstanding questions that have been left unanswered (either by omission or by what you describe as insults)?
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posted on
01/01/2006 4:55:08 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: freedumb2003
So, am I then to understand that you are clear on the TOE and don't have any outstanding questions that have been left unanswered ?
When I'm ready to ask the questions that I'll need answered (to make my mind up), I'll ask. In the mean time I'm working on it. I'm hindered by my third grade education.
To: xmission
In the mean time I'm working on it. I'm hindered by my third grade education. Is that a snide remark?
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posted on
01/01/2006 5:01:07 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
To: xmission
When I'm ready to ask the questions that I'll need answered (to make my mind up) So I assume you revoke your post #55 (which was awhile ago). Just wanted to make sure.
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posted on
01/01/2006 5:02:17 PM PST
by
freedumb2003
(American troops cannot be defeated. American Politicians can.)
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