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68 dead people reported as voting between 1994-04 in Shelby Co.
AP Wire
| 12/28/05
Posted on 12/28/2005 12:24:22 PM PST by Brian Mosely
MEMPHIS, Tenn. (AP) At least 68 people recorded as voting in Shelby County between 1994 and 2004 were dead at the time the ballots were cast, a television station reported.
The investigation by WMC-TV uncovered several names of voters, which according to Shelby County Election Commission records, cast ballots as much as eight and 10 years after federal records show they died.
I certainly have no idea how any of this could have happened, commission administrator James Johnson said.
He said he would turn the results of the stations investigation over to the district attorney for further investigation.
Prosecutors already have asked the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation to assist an investigation into reports by The Commercial Appeal that at least two ballots were cast in a September special election in the name of registered voters who died weeks earlier.
The certified vote count of that election provided a 13-vote victory for Ophelia Ford to replace her brother John Ford in the state Senate. John Ford resigned his seat in May after he was arrested on federal charges of taking a payoff to influence legislation.
The margin has since been cut by several votes, and Republican candidate Terry Roland is challenging the election on grounds of fraud.
Ophelia Ford has already been sworn into office, but it will be up to the Republican-dominated Senate to decide whether to seat her when the Legislature goes into session next month. The Senate also is investigation Rolands claims.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Tennessee
KEYWORDS: deadvote; democratvotefraud; howtostealanelection; votefraud; voterfraud
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To: Brian Mosely
he old joke has spread and became a reality.
"Is there a vote after death?" Answer, "Yes, move to Cook County, IL."
To: HairOfTheDog
The investigation by WMC-TV uncovered several names of voters, which according to Shelby County Election Commission records, cast ballots as much as eight and 10 years after federal records show they died. I could buy your argument if people turned in an absentee ballot requested by grandpa, who then died before he could mail it. But 8-10 years after gramps dies?
In Florida, you have to request an absentee ballot and give all sorts of information. They don't just send you one year after year.
My family comes from Jackson, Tennessee, and they make them strong and opinionated there. If anyone could vote after death....
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:18:47 PM PST
by
Chanticleer
(A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
To: Chanticleer
Well, who do you think cast those votes then, if not family members or other familiar people who knew those specific people were dead.
If it were thousands, it'd be significant. This number seems to me to be a fairly typical percentage of malfeasance in any human endeavor.
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:26:35 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
It may very well have been family members. I'm just saying that, where I live anyway, it would not simply be a matter of innocently checking a box and returning the ballot on behalf of dead grandpa. It would require either deliberately requesting an absentee ballot, providing all the requisite information, or appearing at a polling place with i.d. to cast a fraudulent vote. That isn't something innocent or excusable -- it is deliberate voter fraud, a third-degree felony in our state, punishable with a fine of up to $5,000 or five years in prison.
I can't imagine doing that, no matter how much I love my parents or my spouse, no matter how strongly they or I feel about an election. Can you?
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:40:35 PM PST
by
Chanticleer
(A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
To: Chanticleer
Of course not, it's wrong and should be punished, and it's often found out.
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:43:39 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
I do agree with you that 68 dead voters in one county over a 10-year period does not scream wide-scale voter fraud or a plot on behalf of either party.... Maybe the dead voters cancelled each other out!
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:48:15 PM PST
by
Chanticleer
(A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
To: Zavien Doombringer
Dead people always vote Democrat. They want those free perks they can't afford anymore.
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:49:16 PM PST
by
ZULU
(Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
To: Chanticleer
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posted on
12/28/2005 1:49:22 PM PST
by
HairOfTheDog
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To: jamesm51
"Why don't they ever check your ID when you go to vote?"
Are you nuts? In Memphis? Memphis, Tennessee? In the deep south? That would be racist don'tcha know.
Besides we are only talking about 68 lousy votes. Only a racist TV station would make a big ta-doo over a measly 68 votes. Plus we all know them poor departed folks would have voted for the Fords. sheesh
Sarcasm off
To: BenLurkin
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posted on
12/28/2005 2:32:33 PM PST
by
ErnBatavia
(I post in slang..live with it or ignore it - reader's choice.)
To: Brian Mosely
The certified vote count of that election provided a 13-vote victory for Ophelia Ford to replace her brother John Ford in the state Senate. John Ford resigned his seat in May after he was arrested on federal charges of taking a payoff to influence legislation.Sleaze will out.
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posted on
12/28/2005 2:33:45 PM PST
by
mewzilla
(Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
To: RichInOC
"How did Elvis vote?"
Just like everyone else in the deep south. Democrat. My Lord, he was born in Tupelo, Ms raised in Memphis Tn. so of course he voted Democrat. Both when he was alive and now.
To: jamesm51
I live in Memphis and I am always asked to show ID when I vote. Of course, it may be cause I am a white male registered Republican.
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posted on
12/28/2005 2:52:05 PM PST
by
packrat35
(The America hating bastards at the NYT must spend their entire life with their heads in the toiletat)
To: Brian Mosely
68 dead people reported as voting between 1994-04 in Shelby Co. ----I will be willing to bet that number will seem like small potatoes when another state has it's elections FINALLY. Not mentioning any particular state.
Just kiddin
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posted on
12/28/2005 3:06:46 PM PST
by
WasDougsLamb
(I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed man)
To: packrat35
I'm in California (Santa Barbara), and I've never been asked to provide ID. Nobody in my family (San Francisco Bay Area) has been asked to provide ID, either. Maybe only the red states ask for ID?
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posted on
12/28/2005 4:13:14 PM PST
by
jamesm51
To: Brian Mosely
Southern Baptist Preacher: "My brothers and sisters in Christ, where and when shall the dead be raised up?"
Wag from back of church: "The County Registrar's Office on Election Day!"
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posted on
12/28/2005 4:14:39 PM PST
by
BeHoldAPaleHorse
(MORE COWBELL! MORE COWBELL! (CLANK-CLANK-CLANK))
To: HairOfTheDog
"If it were thousands, it'd be significant."Well it was "significant" enough to overturn this election!
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posted on
12/28/2005 4:21:14 PM PST
by
TheLion
To: YouPosting2Me
How many vacant lots have regular voters?
Great topic for a student wanting to complete a GIS project.
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12/28/2005 4:22:20 PM PST
by
pointsal
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posted on
12/28/2005 4:22:25 PM PST
by
TheLion
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Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here
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posted on
12/28/2005 4:24:12 PM PST
by
freepatriot32
(Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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