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JAILED FOR THEIR WORDS (Old time war opponents tossed into the Montana slammer)
Chicago Tribune ^ | December 28, 2005 | Maurice Possley

Posted on 12/28/2005 8:45:32 AM PST by Chi-townChief

On April 23, 1918, with the U.S. in the depths of World War I, Fred Rodewald, a German immigrant homesteader who had settled with his family on 320 acres in eastern Montana, uttered a sentence that forever changed his life.

He suggested that Americans "would have hard times" if Germany's kaiser "didn't get over here and rule this country."

That remark earned him 2 years in prison for violating Montana's Sedition Act. When he went off to the penitentiary in Deer Lodge, the 42-year-old Rodewald left behind a pregnant wife and eight children. An armistice ended the war less than a month later.

Now, nearly 90 years later, law students at the University of Montana have begun a quest and are prowling dusty archives and musty courthouse storage rooms across the state to clear Rodewald and 73 other Montanans convicted of sedition.

The project provides a contrast between the waning days of World War I, when a farmer could be jailed for suggesting that it was "a rich man's war," and today, when citizens can criticize the war in Iraq without fear of prosecution, if not without fear of government surveillance.

Sparked by "Darkest Before Dawn: Sedition and Free Speech in the American West," a new book by Clemens Work, a University of Montana journalism professor, seven law students have begun reinvestigating the cases to prepare clemency petitions that they intend to present to Montana Gov. Brian Schweitzer this spring.

When first notified of the possibility of a pardon, Rodewald's granddaughter Phyllis Rolf, of Minnesota, wept.

"I will be very, very happy if they can clear not only my grandfather, but all of them," Rolf said.

(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...


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Sounds like the joke was on Ol' Fred. My German-American grandmother was always very outspoken - I'm surprised they didn't cart her away back then.
1 posted on 12/28/2005 8:45:33 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: Chi-townChief

Why pardon them?


2 posted on 12/28/2005 8:48:03 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: Chi-townChief

Perhaps if a few of those DU or Hollywood fools were given time to reflect on their message in prison, they might learn the difference between loyal opposition and sedition.


3 posted on 12/28/2005 8:50:22 AM PST by Loyalist (Dissonance And Disrespect: http://dissonanceanddisrespect.blogspot.com)
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To: MarneyK

Will it change anything by pardoning them?

Welcome to FR


5 posted on 12/28/2005 8:55:40 AM PST by listenhillary ("Mainstream media" is creating it's own reality~everything sucks)
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To: MarneyK

Can't we use this on the NY times editors?


6 posted on 12/28/2005 8:56:40 AM PST by George from New England
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To: Chi-townChief
Sedition laws come and go. Currently we don't have any.

HOWEVER treason in a time of war is defined in the Constitution.

You cannot provide "aid and comfort" to the enemy. A number of outspoken "critics" have done this when they have carried banners that read "I support our troops when they shoot their officers" and written things like:

The Iraqis who have risen up against the occupation are not "insurgents" or "terrorists" or "The Enemy." They are the REVOLUTION, the Minutemen, and their numbers will grow -- and they will win. Get it, Mr. Bush?....I oppose the U.N. or anyone else risking the lives of their citizens to extract us from our debacle...the majority of Americans supported this war once it began and, sadly, that majority must now sacrifice their children until enough blood has been let that maybe -- just maybe -- God and the Iraqi people will forgive us in the end. (Michael Moore for his blog)

and

The long-dreaded 2004 Olympics in Greece will be the ultimate crossroads for sports and politics in this new and vicious century. The recent photos of cruelty at the Abu Grahaib all-american prison in Baghdad have taken care of that.

Yes, sir. We have taken the bull by the horns on this one, sports fans. These horrifying digital snapshots of the American dream in action on foreign soil are worse than anything even I could have expected. I have been in this business a long time and I have seen many staggering things, but this one is over the line. Now I am really ashamed to carry an American passport. Not even the foulest atrocities of Adolf Hitler ever shocked me so badly as these photographs did. (Hunter S. Thompson for Disney owned ESPN)


7 posted on 12/28/2005 8:58:04 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: MarneyK

American born Mildred Gillars (aka Axis Sally) was convicted of treason after WWII and sentenced to prison.

American born William Joyce (aka Lord Haw Haw) was convicted of treason after WWII and hanged.

Used to know how to treat the media who supported nazism.


8 posted on 12/28/2005 8:59:48 AM PST by weegee (Christmas - the holiday that dare not speak its name.)
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To: weegee

Hunter got his by his own hand no less; hopefully, Moore will come to the same realization.


9 posted on 12/28/2005 9:00:39 AM PST by Chi-townChief
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To: MarneyK
It's a shamefully unAmerican story.

More un-American than government officials doing everything they can to endanger their constituents with real acts of traitorism and treason?

10 posted on 12/28/2005 9:00:58 AM PST by trebb ("I am the way... no one comes to the Father, but by me..." - Jesus in John 14:6 (RSV))
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To: Chi-townChief

Wife's grandfather was a Arkansas farmer of German linage, in WW 1 he too got into trouble. He said the Kaiser should come over and run the country it was so messed up. He was tried in AR court and was sentenced, could only have freedom of movement from 6 AM until 6 PM, but was under house arrest at night.


11 posted on 12/28/2005 9:05:49 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Chi-townChief
When he sobered up for several seconds and re-read his "Mad Cow" moment ("Not even the foulest atrocities of Adolf Hitler ever shocked me so badly as these photographs did"), he probably realized it was time to deal with his destroyed brain once and for all...
12 posted on 12/28/2005 9:08:08 AM PST by an amused spectator (Bush Runner! The Donkey is after you! Bush Runner! When he catches you, you're through!)
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To: listenhillary
Another indicator of why foreign born persons should never be permitted the Presidency.
13 posted on 12/28/2005 9:10:06 AM PST by BenLurkin (O beautiful for patriot dream - that sees beyond the years)
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To: MarneyK
When immigrants from Germany (during this period and earlier) applied for citizenship, they signed a paper denouncing their country and king. I'm sure from any country at the time, but those were the documents I looked up for geneaology purposes. The wording was very harsh. So while it seems ridiculous this man was thrown in jail, their actually was a legal basis for it.

I didn't read the book you refer to, but if the people jailed were immigrants--it would make sense. (Although, ten years plus does sound extreme.) I wonder if today's immigrants sign such a paper denouncing the country that they come from.

15 posted on 12/28/2005 9:15:53 AM PST by World'sGoneInsane (LET NO ONE BE FORGOTTEN, LET NO ONE FORGET)
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To: Chi-townChief
I liked this little tidbit of information thrown in...

...when citizens can criticize the war in Iraq without fear of prosecution, if not without fear of government surveillance.

16 posted on 12/28/2005 9:18:29 AM PST by pgyanke (The only way for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: weegee
HOWEVER treason in a time of war is defined in the Constitution.

A "time of war" is defined in the Constitution as well.

17 posted on 12/28/2005 9:23:48 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Chi-townChief

And who was President back then? Hmmm the Rat's hero, Woodrow Wilson.


18 posted on 12/28/2005 9:25:20 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: MarneyK

Name ONE citizen imprisoned for demanding explanations?


20 posted on 12/28/2005 9:44:47 AM PST by clawrence3
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