[penelopesire]

"A fence, unless electrified, will not deter the coyotes bringing illegals in"

Exactly. I think everybody needs to read this article:

http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&issue=20051223

Do you want a bill sponsored by McCain/Kennedy or Cornyn/ Kyl?

[NapkinUser]

"Do you want a bill sponsored by McCain/Kennedy or Cornyn/ Kyl?"

How about none of the above? Can't we have what the house wants without some failed 1986 amnesty? It didn't work for Christ's sake.

[Reaganwuzthebest]

Do you want a bill sponsored by McCain/Kennedy or Cornyn/ Kyl?

How about neither? The House passed a good bill, let's go with that and talk about any possible guest worker plans after the border's secured. Otherwise it'll turn into 1986 all over again, just another bait and switch where it becomes all amnesty and no enforcement.

[Plutarch]

Today, about 80% of all foreigners in the U.S. on work visas legally "adjust" from temporary to permanent status.

The Migration Policy Institute said the popular H1B program for skilled workers "implicitly encourages a transition to permanent residency" because H1B workers are not required to demonstrate that they intend to return home.

I had not known this.