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INTELLIGENT DESIGN: Teaching children the truth [Cal Thomas gets it]
Miami Herald ^ | 28 December 2005 | CAL THOMAS

Posted on 12/28/2005 3:49:52 AM PST by PatrickHenry

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To: PatrickHenry

Most public schools are so bad I recommend that parents either home-school or private-school their children if at all possible. Leftist, multicultural, and anti-American indoctrination are just a part of the problem. The child will simply not be taught what they need to know. As an example- the amount of time and energy my husband and I have spent supplementing and 're-educating' our kids would have been better spent teaching them correctly in the first place.


41 posted on 12/28/2005 6:01:37 AM PST by visualops (www.visualops.com)
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To: PatrickHenry; Havoc

After reading this piece by a Christian conservative columnist, I just have to wonder: WWDDD (What Would Dr. Dino Do)? If Kent Hovind wants to make the big bucks, he should open up a chain of ID schools and lead an exodus from the public school system.

A win-win for everyone. Public schools could teach real science without interference, Dr. Dino could teach for tuition, and Christian parents would be happy to pay for the replacement of science courses with religious beliefs.


42 posted on 12/28/2005 6:03:03 AM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: picti

"In the origin of species debate, not only do the evolutionist deny the holes in their explanation, they deny the right to question these gaps."

Nonsense. Evolutionists are always questioning their theories. ID simply isn't a scientific claim; why compound the imperfection of the Theory of Evolution with the horse manure that is ID?


43 posted on 12/28/2005 6:07:13 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: visualops
Most public schools are so bad I recommend that parents either home-school or private-school their children if at all possible.

There is a trick to this. Move to a location that has the best public schools in your state. Your child gets an excellent education and you don't pay the stupid tax (private school tuition on top of subsidizing the public school with tax dollars). Not happy with the best in your state? Move to the best school district in a state that has better schools. Works every time.

44 posted on 12/28/2005 6:07:26 AM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: visualops

Public schools often harm children. My son was taught "whole language" reading. It left him unable to read and the damage took years to fix.


46 posted on 12/28/2005 6:11:20 AM PST by Varda
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To: PatrickHenry

$10,000.00 per student per year to attend schools established by the government for the promotion of atheism. Sounds good to me.


47 posted on 12/28/2005 6:11:45 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: peyton randolph

"Move to the best school district in a state that has better schools. Works every time."

Except when they bus your kids about an hour a way in order to promote *diversity*.


48 posted on 12/28/2005 6:11:58 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: PatrickHenry

I will add Cal Thomas to my 'Sane-list' of pundits such as George Will and Krauthhamer.


49 posted on 12/28/2005 6:14:57 AM PST by DoctorMichael (The Fourth-Estate is a Fifth-Column!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Except when they bus your kids about an hour a way in order to promote *diversity*.

By definition, the best school district will not bus your kids to promote diversity. And to reiterate, if the best school in your state isn't good enough, relocate to a state that has better public schools. Works every time.

50 posted on 12/28/2005 6:16:25 AM PST by peyton randolph (<a href="http://clinton.senate.gov/">shrew</a>)
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To: dmz

When I've heard their intentions and lengthy explanations of their reasons for doing so, from their own mouths, I'd say that my assessment of them is accurate. And it's more than just a personal anecdote, it's a cultural trend, thanks to the Culture of Death, where children are an unacceptable inconvenience to the pursuit of materialism and hedonism.


51 posted on 12/28/2005 6:17:40 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Except when they bus your kids about an hour a way in order to promote *diversity*.

I've seen that. If one neighborhood school is doing well compared to others, the school board will re-draw the lines, so that the students from the successful school will be spread around to the failing schools, and vice versa, thus "improving" the failing schools and destroying the successful school.

52 posted on 12/28/2005 6:18:12 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Virtual Ignore for trolls, lunatics, dotards, common scolds, & incurable ignoramuses.)
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To: cvq3842
But evolution seems to be used as political shorthand by some for the proposition that "we have proved that God did NOT create the universe. life, etc. and in fact there is no God."

This argument only seems to make sense to creationists. There are atheists who believe in evolution, but they are atheists for other reasons.

Science gets accused of this every time it finds natural processes responsible for something previously attributed to the will of gods -- disease, floods, storms, earthquakes, crop failures.

53 posted on 12/28/2005 6:18:51 AM PST by js1138 (Great is the power of steady misrepresentation.)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
Nonsense. Evolutionists are always questioning their theories. ID simply isn't a scientific claim; why compound the imperfection of the Theory of Evolution with the horse manure that is ID?

Just curious, how many of these so called imperfections would you have to find before you started questioning the validity of the theory itself?
54 posted on 12/28/2005 6:21:14 AM PST by rrr51
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To: peyton randolph

" By definition, the best school district will not bus your kids to promote diversity."

It happens though. You move to a nice, expensive area, with an excellent local school. Then the government says that your child has to go to the rundown school on the other side of town, to promote diversity. You either accept that or send your children to private schools.

"And to reiterate, if the best school in your state isn't good enough, relocate to a state that has better public schools. Works every time."

Accept when they don't let your kids go to the best schools because they want to promote *diversity*.


55 posted on 12/28/2005 6:21:55 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: maica
Agreeing that government education is not healthy for our children and yet arguing that our only recourse is to ignore it, does not address the problem.

Public schools, like science and its definitions, are for everybody, not just atheists.

56 posted on 12/28/2005 6:22:28 AM PST by Fester Chugabrew
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To: McBuff

I tend to agree with you.

So long as my tax dollars are taken to fund government education I am responsible in part for the results. Sadly the results have been quite expensive known as cradle to grave dependents.


57 posted on 12/28/2005 6:23:38 AM PST by Just mythoughts
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To: rrr51
"Just curious, how many of these so called imperfections would you have to find before you started questioning the validity of the theory itself?"

Every theory in science is imperfect; when will you start questioning their validity?

As for evolution, the *holes* are mostly in the genealogies of specific lineages. Common descent is no longer on the table; it is a fact. The questions scientists have concern the exact manner that evolution happened.
58 posted on 12/28/2005 6:25:17 AM PST by CarolinaGuitarman (Merry Christmas!!!!)
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To: CarolinaGuitarman
It happens though. You move to a nice, expensive area, with an excellent local school. Then the government says that your child has to go to the rundown school on the other side of town, to promote diversity. You either accept that or send your children to private schools.

Well, move to a state like Utah or Vermont where there isn't diversity.

59 posted on 12/28/2005 6:25:46 AM PST by LWalk18
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To: PatrickHenry
He's wrong on several points, but here's the money quote:

Religious parents should exercise the opportunity that has always been theirs. They should remove their children from state schools with their ''instruction manuals'' for turning them into secular liberals and place them in private schools -- or home school them -- where they will be taught the truth, according to their parents' beliefs. Too many parents who would never send their children to a church on Sunday that taught doctrines they believed to be wrong have had no problem placing them in state schools five days a week where they are taught conflicting doctrines and ideas.

Absolutely. If the public schools went belly up tomorrow, I wouldn't shed a single tear.
60 posted on 12/28/2005 6:27:30 AM PST by JamesP81
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