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Hole found in Alaska plane (CONTRACT BAGGAGE HANDLER HIT PLANE - DIDN'T REPORT IT)
KING5.com ^ | 12/27/05 | KING5.com

Posted on 12/27/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by paulat

Hole found in Alaska plane

05:30 PM PST on Tuesday, December 27, 2005 KING5.com

Investigators: Problems spike after ramp work outsourced

SEATTLE – An Alaska Airlines plane was forced to return to Seattle Monday after a gash in the plane’s fuselage caused the aircraft to lose pressurization.

The incident began when a ramp worker hit the plane with a baggage cart or baggage belt machine, according to National Transportation Safety Board spokesman Jim Struhsaker.

The accident created a crease in the skin of the plane which opened up into a hole when the pressure on the plane changed at 26,000 feet.

The employee told the agency that although the vehicle had touched the plane, he was not aware that he had dented it.

“At that time in the driving rain it did not appear to be significant to him,” Stuhsaker said.

According to Alaska Airlines and accounts provided to KING 5 News by passengers, flight 536 took off from Sea-Tac at 3:50 p.m., bound for Burbank, Calif.

Alaska Airlines flight 536 was forced to return to Sea-Tac Monday after it lost cabin pressure. Passenger Jeremy Hermanns took this snapshot of the scene after the oxygen masks had dropped down.

About 10 or 20 minutes into the flight, there was a loud noise and the cabin lost pressure. The plane then descended rapidly before returning to Sea-Tac, said Caroline Boren, a spokeswoman for Alaska Airlines.

Passenger accounts of the incident paint a scary picture.

“I could feel that obviously my ears popping and that's not a good symbol and that didn't go away and then it got hard to breathe and then whoosh all the compression in the plane was lost. We totally decompressed,” said passenger Jeremy Hermanns.

He said everyone on board scrambled to get their masks on and then the engine noise became very loud.

“We knew that something was going on … it was definitely frightening. It wasn't something I wanted to do again,” he said.

Jeremy Hermanns shot this image of himself with his oxygen mask on after the plane he was on lost cabin pressure.

Hermann’s believes, nevertheless that the crew handled the situation well.

“I'm just very glad that the pilots and the crew and everybody handled it so well,” he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: alaskaairlines; aviation; emergencylanding; faa; flight536; mcdonnelldouglas; md80; md83; ntsb; wa
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To: cardinal4
but when mainline UAL, USAIRWAYS, and AA ground crews worked our flights, we never had the problems that we do now.

Thank you, from a prior AA Ramp Ape

161 posted on 12/29/2005 8:25:18 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: cardinal4
I just wanted to give what you said the emphasis it deserves.

Outsourcing airport work to foreigners who don't speak English is a recipe for disaster and a boon for our aircraft sheet metal contractors.


162 posted on 12/29/2005 8:28:33 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If better were within, better would come out. - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher
LOL,

I worked with a few English speaking "no-loads" too :p...

You can tell them hundreds of times how to drive a tug to the mailroom, but they just don't grasp it...so I let them handle the LAV cart :)

163 posted on 12/29/2005 8:31:44 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Paved Paradise
You wouldn't it if you knew it meant your job...

That is what the problem is...

164 posted on 12/29/2005 8:32:56 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

Blue Room => Lav Cart?


165 posted on 12/29/2005 8:34:47 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If better were within, better would come out. - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher
LOL... The lav cart wasn't exactly a room :)

here is what ours looked like...


166 posted on 12/29/2005 8:55:07 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

But, the stuff in the blue room ends up in the lav cart, right?


167 posted on 12/29/2005 8:56:25 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If better were within, better would come out. - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher

uh, huh... Big hose, little hose, 2 t-handles and a push of a button and voila... dump and pump :)


168 posted on 12/29/2005 9:00:28 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Dashing Dasher

I hated dumping the cart when it got full..


169 posted on 12/29/2005 9:03:09 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

I could imagine.


170 posted on 12/29/2005 9:05:45 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If better were within, better would come out. - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher

that's when I could delegate my authority and send a newbie to do it :)

I was after all, the most senior and Lead, so, that made me King....


171 posted on 12/29/2005 9:31:10 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

And you "speaka Anglish"!


172 posted on 12/29/2005 9:37:41 AM PST by Dashing Dasher (If better were within, better would come out. - - Thomas Fuller)
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To: Dashing Dasher

samatta ju...I speak engrish rearry good.. "Son of Beetch and Sheet"...


173 posted on 12/29/2005 9:39:39 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

You are wrong about that. I am accountable to a higher authority and while I might be afraid of job repercussions, mistakes do happen. I don't want to go to bed at night knowing that lives were lost due to my negligence. I trust in God for all things and He could find me a new job.


174 posted on 12/29/2005 9:49:45 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Ok, then you are out of the ordinary, as am I. Because of what I know, I could not in good faith let that jet back out with a crease in the skin... I would have to confess to it and cause a delay or cancellation. I also hold professional licenses that I would be at risk of losing and being barred from working on AC.


175 posted on 12/29/2005 10:02:45 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

There is a scripture verse that says (paraphrased) "he who is slack in his work is brother to one who destroys."

My husband used to work with a notorious slacker in a very dangerous job. The guy was pretty religious (a JW) and always proselytizing. I told my hubby to give him that verse to chew on.

I learned a long time ago it's best to be honest about mistakes made. Ordinarily, people will respect you for it. It can backfire but I'd rather take the high road. Glad to hear you believe the same.

Happy NEW YEAR!!!!!


176 posted on 12/29/2005 10:06:04 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
AS much as I love Jesus and respect others faith. I have had the misfortune to work with "religious" folk, who think thier job while on the job is to "witness..". I refer them to Song of Solomon... For every thing there is a season...

They also seem to daydream more...

177 posted on 12/29/2005 10:12:19 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

That's pretty funny.


178 posted on 12/29/2005 10:15:37 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise

Not too funny when you have to try to wake them up while they are wingwalking on a powerback...


179 posted on 12/29/2005 10:26:10 AM PST by Zavien Doombringer (Have you gotten your Viking Kittie Patch today? http://www.visualops.com/patch.html)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

What is a powerback?


180 posted on 12/29/2005 10:34:40 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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