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Hole found in Alaska plane (CONTRACT BAGGAGE HANDLER HIT PLANE - DIDN'T REPORT IT)
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Posted on 12/27/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by paulat
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To: Dashing Dasher; Fierce Allegiance
Gotta run you two, late for a meeting, but I leave you with a pic of my Grandson Haeden. (He's gonna hate Grandma for puttin' him in this costing)
(Yes, SISU is very very very proud!!!)
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posted on
12/28/2005 5:28:32 PM PST
by
The SISU kid
(I have seen the future (but I signed a nondisclosure))
To: The SISU kid
That is very cool. I look forward to being called granddaddy, but not for a long long time.
To: hoosierham
Hard to say, planes crashed before de-regulation. It was lot more expensive to fly then as well IIRC.
If re-regulation is to be considered, are *you* willing to pay more (a lot more - I would guess) for tickets AND for a larger (a whole lot larger) Federal Bureaucracy to inspect the airlines?
I suspect *most* folks would say no to both.
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posted on
12/28/2005 5:29:37 PM PST
by
ASOC
(The result of choosing between the lesser of two evils, in the end, leaves you with, well, evil.)
To: The SISU kid
That's not a puppy!
That's a kid!
Yikes!!!!!
Cute, for a kid!
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posted on
12/28/2005 5:33:24 PM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(If better were within, better would come out. - -Thomas Fuller)
To: Dashing Dasher
I wouldn't know. :)
To: The SISU kid
(Yes, SISU is very very very proud!!!)You have every right. cute kid!
To: paulat; ASOC
If there were any pets in that hold...they'd have to be toast. That would depend on how fast the aircraft descended to a lower altitude. They probably lost consciousness, but it's quite possible for them to survive if they weren't deprived of oxygen too long.
To: Paleo Conservative; HairOfTheDog
FYI...I haven't heard of any pet reports out of this yet...HairOfTheDog...have you?
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posted on
12/28/2005 6:34:42 PM PST
by
paulat
To: fallujah-nuker
Delta bought Western Airlines in the eighties, who in turn bought Pacific Northern Airlines in the sixties. They were Alaska Airlines main... Oh, man, what memories 'Western Airlines' brings back. I'm a native Californian (Oakland) and can remember their ads: cartoon bird, with legs crossed and reclining against the tail of an aicraft, taps ashes off cigar and pronounces, "Aahh, Western ... the only way to fly!"
Typically the ad was for a skier's special to Utah or Colorado. That was back in the late 50's, around the time PSA was getting rolling - PSA had the finest stews around, bar none.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:08:41 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
To: phantomworker
This type of injury to the plane needs to be eliminated before they start flying the composite bodies of the 787. Composite even in areas around baggage hold doors and cabin doors? If so, seriously scary shit! I understand well how composites are becoming more and more common in all sorts of structural parts of a/c, but still ... I wouldn't mind a weight/material penalty where abuse is likely.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:14:46 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
To: IonImplantGuru
I'd forgotten about that bird but you're right. By first flight on a jet was a Western B-720 from SFO to Sea-Tac in 1966. My grandfather lived in Sacramento and we normally flew a United DC-6 down to see him each year, but UAL was on strike so we took a train down because he wanted us kids to have a chance to do that before they were gone.
It was funny how quick things changed because the next time we went down it was on a 727. Never flew another piston engined airliner again. They were kind of neat, the windows were larger and they flew lower. The DC-6 flew a milk run that made a number of stops, and kids would be brought into the cockpit.
IIRC PSA was intrastate only at the time so the CAB had no control over them and they could offer cheaper fares. Southwest started the same way.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:19:47 PM PST
by
fallujah-nuker
(America needs more SAC and less empty sacs.)
To: eeriegeno
While we have what I consider an over abundance of security at the front door to an airport, I have always been concerned about what is done to guard the back doors?????? Those box cutters that the 9/11 terrorists used to hijack the planes? One strong theory is that they were smuggled onto the plane by people on the maintenence crew. When the planes were grounded and searched on 9/11, at least one more plane was found to have box-cutters stashed under the seats.
From 9/11 commission report
Box cutters were found on two planes grounded on September 11th. The box cutters were found under adjoining seat cushions on a flight out of Boston. Others were found in a trash bin on a plane bound from Atlanta to Brussels.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:21:26 PM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
To: Zavien Doombringer
While I was working for American, on the Ramp as a Lead Ramp Agent and Mechanic, the rule was... Hit a plane and you're FIRED! The problem with this policy is that it ensures that hitting a plane will not be reported. If I hit a plane and report it, I'm fired. If I hit a plane, and don't report it, and I'm not found out, then I retain my job. If I am found out, then I'm fired, but no worse off than if I had reported it. So the best strategy is to not report.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:27:35 PM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(A planned society is most appealing to those with the hubris to think they will be the planners)
To: Dashing Dasher
"You were post 69....(insert Beavis/Butthead laugh track)"
Fierce thinks I'm always 69....,
he's 70....
He comes after me.
Ja, I'm sure Dashing. Go ahead and play the naif, but we who know of you know better
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:27:41 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
To: IonImplantGuru
You know of me?
Do tell....
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:28:28 PM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(If better were within, better would come out. - -Thomas Fuller)
To: fallujah-nuker
IIRC PSA was intrastate only at the time so the CAB had no control over them and they could offer cheaper fares. Southwest started the same way. Wanna weep? $19.95 SFO - LAX, $21.95 SFO - SAN (Diego). That's what I remember from the PSA ads, ca. 1962.
A quick Orbitz peek shows $150 as the cheapest nowadays. On the other hand, gas was 31 cents a gallon back then, so who am I to complain?
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:42:50 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
To: Dashing Dasher
You know of me? Do tell.... Not my style; if you check my profile, you'll see I was a member of the 'Silent Service', so it's unlikely I'd ever tell a thing.
That said, I'm simply an admirer - you're an aerobatic artiste, and I'm simply able to get a small aircraft up into the air and back down again without major damage.
But I surely do have fun in the process.
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:51:08 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
To: IonImplantGuru
Cool... I was worried you knew me better than I knew me.
I saw you were a flyer also ....
and a golfer.... I figured I couldn't do both successfully.
My golf game is pitiful.
Keep in touch - just don't scare me!
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posted on
12/28/2005 7:56:28 PM PST
by
Dashing Dasher
(If better were within, better would come out. - -Thomas Fuller)
To: IonImplantGuru
I'm not familiar with the latest design of the 787, but damage when loading cargo is a major concern with a composite fuselage as you can imagine. I am sure they have it figured out and will have improved ramp operations by the time the a/c goes into service.
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posted on
12/28/2005 8:15:23 PM PST
by
phantomworker
(I trust my intuition and speak my truth... Don't accuse me of your imagination!)
To: Dashing Dasher
My golf game is pitiful. Whiner! I'm about bogie and a half (95 +/- 10) so I consider my self 'out for the walk', rather than Tiger Sr.
Be careful up there, I want to enjoy your flying insights for many years to come.
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posted on
12/28/2005 8:20:43 PM PST
by
IonImplantGuru
(If the founding fathers wanted the President to be spying on our calls, they'd've said so.)
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