Posted on 12/26/2005 8:37:06 AM PST by PatrickHenry
Questioned about the national debate over ''intelligent design,'' [Florida] Gov. Jeb Bush last week said he's more interested in seeing some evolution of the science standards that Florida public school students must meet.
He wants those standards to become more rigorous -- and raising the standards should take priority over discussing whether intelligent design has a place in the public schools' curriculum, he said.
Nationally, the discussion over whether to teach intelligent design -- a concept that says life is too complex to have occurred without the involvement of a higher force -- in public school classes heated up after U.S. District Judge John E. Jones ruled that it smacked of creationism and was a violation of church and state separation. (President Bush appointed Jones to the federal bench in 2004.)
Jones, in his decision, wrote that the concept of intelligent design ''cannot uncouple itself from its creationist, and thus religious, antecedents,'' according to a Knight Ridder News Service report published Wednesday in The Miami Herald. [PH here: For a more reliable source than the Herald, here's the judge's opinion (big pdf file).]
In Florida, education officials and science teachers will be reviewing the state's science curriculum in 2007 or 2008, after the governor has left office, and ''it is possible that people would make an effort to include [intelligent design] in the debate,'' Gov. Bush told The Watchdog Report on Wednesday. ''My personal belief is we ought to look at whether our standards are high first,'' he said.
SCIENCE FIRST
``The more important point is science itself and how important it is, and we right now have adequate standards that may need to be raised. But worse: Students are not given the course work necessary to do well with those standards.''
Bush, after meeting with Coral Gables Mayor Don Slesnick and city commissioners concerning the community's widespread power outages after hurricanes Katrina and Wilma, also noted that the federal ruling came in a case that involves Pennsylvania's Dover Area School District.
''It is one school district in Pennsylvania,'' he said.
POINT OF VIEW
The Watchdog Report asked a follow-up question: Does the governor believe in Darwin's theory of evolution?
Bush said: ``Yeah, but I don't think it should actually be part of the curriculum, to be honest with you. And people have different points of view and they can be discussed at school, but it does not need to be in the curriculum.''
Definitions:
Sorry, go back and try again.Theory: a well-substantiated explanation of some aspect of the natural world; an organized system of accepted knowledge that applies in a variety of circumstances to explain a specific set of phenomena; "theories can incorporate facts and laws and tested hypotheses"; "true in fact and theory"
Observation: any information collected with the senses
Fact: when an observation is confirmed repeatedly and by many independent and competent observers, it can become a fact
GOOD! Because those would falsify the current theory of evolution.
Perhaps sickle-cell anemia evolved before DDT was invented?
"Perhaps sickle-cell anemia evolved before DDT was invented?"
The chemical components of DDT have always been around. Those components couldn't have been invented, only discovered.
"GOOD! Because those would falsify the current theory of evolution."
It is. It is a false, fraudulent, fake and phony theory based on speculation.
Now, now, don't gimme that phony baloney "falsify" criteria for verifying whether a theory is provable or not. (I saw a thread on this last night.)
The chemical components of DDT have always been around. Those components couldn't have been invented, only discovered.
Those components couldn't have been discovered by early humans--science (specifically chemistry) hadn't been invented. The best those folks could do was adapt.
And adapt they did. Sickle-cell anemia is just one example of the process of evolution--adaptation to changing conditions. There are many more.
Is this referring to the theory of evolution?
If so, is this your opinion, or do you have some evidence to support this?
You refer to something from last night. I was off-thread last night, so you will have to be more specific.
You go first!
So you disegard his clear "Yeah", for your interpretation that ke's lying like a Cretan.
The Mosaic Geology will risa again!
Evolution was an idea/theory made up by a man and without a doubt Darwin is dead.
Mechanics was an idea/theory made up by a man and without a doubt Newton is dead.
Relativity was an idea/theory made up by a man and without a doubt Einstein is dead.
Genetics was an idea/theory made up by a man and without a doubt Mendel is dead.
Vaccination was an idea/theory made up by a man and without a doubt Jenner is dead.
Do you have an actual point to make, or are you just here to spout vacuity?
I find it very funny and ironic, the chapters of Job (38-41) that you are questioning, God is basically saying to Job that he is a puny, little man that is so ignorant on so many issues and yet he questions God on why He's doing certain things. Just like YOU!
Job 38:1 Then Jehovah answered JobShuckmaster out of the whirlwind, and said,
2 Who is this that darkeneth counsel By words without knowledge?
3 Gird up now thy loins like a man; For I will demand of thee, and declare thou unto me.
4 Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? Declare, if thou hast understanding.
5 Who determined the measures thereof, if thou knowest? Or who stretched the line upon it?
6 Whereupon were the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner-stone thereof,
P.S. As to your original question, it says this:
Dan 12:4 But thou, O Daniel, shut up the words, and seal the book, even to the time of the end: many shall run to and fro, and knowledge shall be increased.
Ecc 3:1 For everything there is a season, and a time for very purpose under heaven:
Um, my high school?
The teacher instead of stating the facts about darwinian evolution insisted that it was the means of creation (which to hear evolutionists speak is a sepearate but related issue), that nothing else was possible, and required students to be tested on that.
He was also holding out hope that any day now the experiments with rna-like soup would yeild DNA.
This happens ALL OVER THE PLACE where activists athiests refuse to keep their religion out of the class room.
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