Yeah, I've been thinking about going there...
Posted on 12/24/2005 12:39:03 PM PST by Tailgunner Joe
Ancient history time (and OT), but the whole final chapter of the war in SEA wasn't the result of weakness on Nixon's part so much as because he had lost all interest in trying to win it: by 1972, he was just trying not to be the one who lost it. The Democrats called the game as being useless and I think they were right.
Yes, we abandoned our allies to their fate, but they were abandoned by Nixon as much as by the Democrats. You had to be there, at the end, to know how peculiar our effort had gotten.
Nepal--isn't that the place where the prince killed his entire family? Isn't this the place where a dingbat king threw out missionaries on a whim, and invited a cult leaders church into the country during the 1980's?
I can tell you that the west lost Nepal over 25 years ago. I lived in Nepal at that time for more than a year and a half. During that time my wife and I would walk the streets of Kathmandu and see all the Maoist literature stands in the city. There was literature of every communist stripe you could imagine. From contacts I had that went to the university there, the communists were very active on campus as well. So, what we are seeing now is the fruit of a long term strategy.
America should stop pampering the ChiComs with the MFN status if it wants to reduce Chinese influence in Asia and the world. The Chinese are using American money to expand their army and create puppet regimes. The proof? Many Chinese firms that supply goods to WalMart are eventually owned by PLA generals (who direct the profits from trade with the USA back into their military).
You know this, Tailgunner Joe and yet you persist in your India basing. Do you want to blame India for America's pampering of the ChiComs/PLA too?
Would you happen to know the status of private property ownership in Nepal? Is it mostly shantytown?
Yeah, I've been thinking about going there...
I am against trade with Communist China.
Great...if only we could convince others about the dangers of trad with China!! I am pro-free trade too but free trade cannot come at the expense of survival, humanity, and common sense.
Merry Christmas
Sounds like Nepal has a problem.
Naturally the author, since we are now leaving Iraq, wants it to be our problem. We will start seeing a lot of this.
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I've been trying, but I can't see how Nepal, whether it goes commie or not, important to the national security of the US. It's hardly what you would call strategically located.
It's sandwiched between the two most populous countries in the world, both of which are becoming more powerful all the time. It is isolated from China by the highest mountains in the world and from India by flat land. Seems like Nepal is, and should be, India's concern, not ours.
True, India should be concerned, but they seem to be more interested in interfering with Nepal's internal politics than with their own national security.
India's lost Nepal already, seems like. Its like the US 'losing' Canada, I guess. Whatever you do, whatever your best intentions, you're way too big to ever be popular there.
"Despite these difficulties and uncertainties, it is clear that the King has failed to provide the leadership to build bridges with the country’s democratic forces and develop a workable plan. It is also clear that efforts by the international community, including the United States, to appeal to the King to start such a process, have failed. The Bush Administration should apply whatever pressure it can, including denying U.S. visas to Nepali officials and their families.
"With few options and no guarantees, Nepal’s hour of reckoning is approaching. There is a growing possibility that the King’s obstinacy and unpopularity will trigger massive civil unrest, shootings and arrests of many more civilians by soldiers and police, Nepalâ??s further isolation, and perhaps the end of the monarchy itself.
"Only the army has the ability to convince the King to abandon his imperial ambitions, but time is running out. The army’s chief of staff, General Pyar Jung Thapa, was privileged to receive training at the Army War College and he has participated in other U.S. military training programs. He has led Nepali troops in UN peacekeeping missions. He knows, or he should have learned, that the function of a modern, professional military is to protect the rights and security of the people, not the privileges of a dictator who has squandered the moral authority of his office. It is not only in the interests of Nepal, but in the army’s long term self interest, to show real leadership at this critical time.
"The United States should do everything possible to encourage the army to announce its own ceasefire, to accept international observers as the Maoists have said they would do, and to support a broadly inclusive political dialogue with or without the participation of the palace."
You're from the UK....you know who the Gurkhas are :)
After all, the British Army camps in Nepal to recruit them each year. I once read an article in which an IRA member was quoted saying that the most frightening thing he experienced during a riot was the sight of Gurkhas marching towards him while tapping their batons in unison.
Here is the FR thread: HOW WE WOULD FIGHT CHINA
Thanks...will do.
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