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Police tell Christian couple view on gays 'close to hate crime' (UK)
Times (UK) ^ | 12/22/05 | David Sanderson

Posted on 12/24/2005 5:22:12 AM PST by jalisco555

POLICE questioned a retired couple for 80 minutes about their “homophobic” views after they asked their local council if they could display their Christian literature next to gay rights leaflets, it was reported last night.

Joe and Helen Roberts said that police officers warned them that their actions “were close to a hate crime” after they complained to Wyre Borough Council about its gay rights policies.

The couple claimed that the police told them they were “walking on eggshells”.

Mr Roberts, from Fleetwood, Lancashire, said he had been offended because of the council’s distribution of the gay rights leaflets and its promotion of its theatre as a venue for civil partnership ceremonies.

He said he complained to Paul Deacon, the council officer responsible for Wyre’s part in the Navajo Charter Mark campaign being run by several local authorities to offer assistance to gay and lesbian people.

Mr Roberts, 73, told the Daily Mail: “I told him I was offended. I asked him if I could put Christian literature on display alongside the gay material. He said I couldn’t because it would offend gay people.

“I said we had no objection to gay people, but we thought that homosexual practice was wrong and we were offended by the gay culture which the council is promoting.

“They warned me that being discriminatory and homophobic is in line with hate crime. The phrase they used was that we were ‘walking on eggshells’. I asked the officer, if I phoned the police with a complaint that the council were discriminating against Christians would he go to interview them?”

Lancashire police said its visit to the Robertses’ family home was a matter of routine after a complaint from the council. A spokesman added: “Words of suitable advice were given and we will not be taking any further action.”

Joan Humble, the Labour MP for Blackpool North and Fleetwood, said the council’s decision to call the police was heavy handed.

She added: “Navajo is a very good project to offer support to gay people. But they should have replied to Mr and Mrs Roberts to explain their policy and allay their fears about the nature of the literature.”

A council spokesman said the couple had “displayed potentially homophobic attitudes”.

He added: “The council referred this matter to the police for further investigation with the intention of challenging attitudes and educating and raising awareness of the implications of homophobic behaviour.”

This month a Metropolitan Police officer telephoned the author Lynette Burrows at her home in Cambridge after she took part in a BBC Radio 5 Live programme. He told her that her broadcast view that gay couples were not good adoptive parents for boys had been reported and recorded as a homophobic incident.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: 1984; deviance; englandsucks; freespeech; hatecrime; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; leftistagenda; orwell; policestate; thoughtcrime; thoughtcriminals; thoughtpolice
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Thought crimes must be punished!
1 posted on 12/24/2005 5:22:15 AM PST by jalisco555
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To: jalisco555

This is a disturbing trend. The next step is to make preaching against homosexuality in a religious context a crime, as it appears to be in other European countries.


2 posted on 12/24/2005 5:26:12 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: jalisco555

don't you know? They're so special, I mean soooo special! isn't it neat? Wonderful too that cops and gays in the UK reckon as being two special peas in a pod too. Ain't life so peachy, special people with genocidal thoughts against Christians and people asking them to reconsider and grow up.

(heavy sarcasm off)


3 posted on 12/24/2005 5:26:21 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

not to mention the pedophiles crucifying kids and mentaly weak people who know better in their hearts that it is wrong but cannot express it or fear.

This is perverse and vicious cruelty... made-in-liberal-psychologia and media


4 posted on 12/24/2005 5:28:38 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: jalisco555

You keep speaking up,Mr and Mrs Roberts.Dare the police to prosecute you and if they do,take every advantage you might get to talk to the local,national and international press!


5 posted on 12/24/2005 5:28:45 AM PST by Gay State Conservative
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To: jalisco555

"POLICE questioned a retired couple for 80 minutes about their “homophobic” views after they asked their local council if they could display their Christian literature next to gay rights leaflets, it was reported last night."

Good God is England that screwed up now? Gay literature is good and Christian literature is bad?

More and more I'm so thankful I don't live in Europe.


6 posted on 12/24/2005 5:29:31 AM PST by NapkinUser ("Our troops have become the enemy." -Representative John P. Murtha, modern day Benedict Arnold.)
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To: JudgemAll

Well, it's nice to know there is no violent crime in the UK. I mean, if the police have enough time to investigate these thought criminals it must be because more serious problems have been solved, no?


7 posted on 12/24/2005 5:30:02 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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Navajo is a very good project to offer support to gay people.

I had no idea that the tribe was so gay friendly. Or that they had roots in England.
8 posted on 12/24/2005 5:31:52 AM PST by Anvilhead
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To: jalisco555

first they came for our guns

then our thoughts

and, yes, then they brought in islamofascists and gangs to do the job almost multiculturaly naturaly PC... neato situation we have in England indeed...not


9 posted on 12/24/2005 5:32:37 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: Anvilhead
I had no idea that the tribe was so gay friendly. Or that they had roots in England.

LOL. Yeah, I wondered about that too.

10 posted on 12/24/2005 5:33:48 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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To: NapkinUser

Four feet good, two feet better.


11 posted on 12/24/2005 5:36:10 AM PST by thoughtomator (Congrats Iraq!)
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To: Anvilhead

...equating gays with "genocided indians" now? Making reservations for them, "endangered"?

Weird, what can one think they could think of.... sorry, that's forbidden and called phobia or paranoia now.

Interesting how things are getting institutionalized around strange names indeed. It's like, what individual or states' rights? Now it's group rights.


12 posted on 12/24/2005 5:37:11 AM PST by JudgemAll (Condemn me, make me naked and kill me, or be silent for ever on my gun ownership and law enforcement)
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To: jalisco555

They are just expressing thier cultural beleifs arent they?


13 posted on 12/24/2005 5:37:24 AM PST by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways "Guero")
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To: jalisco555

But,but,but the queers only represent 2% of the population.

Horse Hockey. No way 2% can cause all this BS.


14 posted on 12/24/2005 5:37:39 AM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: jalisco555

As long as they didn't say "Merry Christmas" or anything, I guess it's just a misdemeanor.


15 posted on 12/24/2005 5:40:01 AM PST by Bon mots
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To: jalisco555
As I wrote yesterday if you are Christian be very careful as laws are being passed throughout the world to put us in irons and to again open the camps. It is just a matter of time if we continue to get Supreme Court justices like we have, who consider international law instead of the US Constitution, we also will be under the boot.
16 posted on 12/24/2005 5:43:21 AM PST by YOUGOTIT
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To: jalisco555

This will happen in the USA soon.
Be ready to send letters and make phone calls.


17 posted on 12/24/2005 5:44:22 AM PST by BooksForTheRight.com (what have you done today to fight terrorism/leftism (same thing!))
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This will happen in the USA soon.

I fear you are right.

18 posted on 12/24/2005 5:46:07 AM PST by jalisco555 ("The right to bear weapons is the right to be free." A. E. Van Vogt)
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"Thought crimes must be punished!"

Exactly! This is just like the old Soviet Union. Britian's not getting there, they're already there and we're not far behind. It's not just a Christian problem it's the idea that the state can criminalize thought of any kind. It's not only the hyper-sensitive that have brought us to this point it's their government enablers and I include lawyers in that subset as they are "officers of the court".


19 posted on 12/24/2005 5:48:42 AM PST by dljordan
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Yes. The time is fast approaching when Christians will be legally punished for practicing their views.


20 posted on 12/24/2005 5:49:09 AM PST by kjo
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