“Thank you Jimmy Carter”--Carter Agrees With Bush Spying

The New York Times ^ | November 8, 1980 | Robert Pear

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U.S.OFFICIALS DEFINE POLICY ON SEARCHES; Lawyers Assert President Still Has 'Inherent Authority' to Order Entries Without Warrants 'Concurrent Jurisdiction' 1978 Executive Order Cited No 'Foreign Connections' Found By ROBERT PEAR Special to The New York Times. New York Times (1857-Current file). New York, N.Y.: Nov 9, 1980. pg. 35, 1 pgs

WASHINGTON, Nov. 8--Justice Department lawyers say that the President still has the "inherent authority" to order searches without warrants to collect foreign intelligence within the United States, despite the criminal conviction this week of two former officials of the Federal Bureau of Investigation who said they had approved such searches in 1972 and 1973.

An executive order issued by President Carter in January 1978 established the standard that governs the use of searches for intelligence purposes today. Such searches, it said, ‘’shall not be undertaken against a United States person without a judicial warrant, unless the President has authorized the type of activity involved and the Attorney General has both approved the particular activity and determined that there is probable cause to believe that the United States person is an agent of a foreign power.'’

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[george76]

[PISANO]

Misleading article. Carter has SAID NOTHING, his EO is just one of MANY that PRESIDENTS from FDR on have realized is necessary to defend this nation.

[george76]

The only thing worse than a Carter Whine.

[GSWarrior]

uh oh....Jimmuh just lost his street cred!

[george76]

[steveegg]

Gotcha.

[Sen Jack S. Fogbound]

The word "spying" sounds so ugly and not altogether very true.

The better term, I would hazard to suggest, would be "Terrorist Surveillance."

It is more descriptive and, really, it is the target in the first place!

[steveegg]

I live in California, and I don't know of a conservative newspaper.

Seriously if you have any, please Freepmail me the name of the controlling company, their papers and stock symbols.

The Washington Times is privately-held, and The Wall Street Journal's parent company, Dow Jones and Company, is traded on the NYSE as DJ. They're "only" down about 18% in the past year, easily beating WPO, NYT and TRB. They're about the only 2 conservative newspapers I can think of, and the WSJ is essentially a financial newspaper.

[StAnDeliver]

Yea, but Carter got fired when he was President.

Oh shit, I guess Bush won't get that third term after all...

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Both stocks have a price spike in September. What happened then that made the stocks more desirable?

There was a large spike in the population of parakeets in September.

[SFConservative]

LOL !

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

In July 1995, Attorney General Reno issued formal procedures aimed at managing information sharing between Justice Department prosecutors and the FBI. They were developed in a working group led by the Justice Department’s Executive Office of National Security, overseen by Deputy Attorney General Jamie Gorelick. These procedures - while requiring the sharing of intelligence information with prosecutors - regulated the manner in which such information could be shared from the intelligence side of the house to the criminal side.

This was done to provide cover for Clinton Admin corruption. Clinton was a very formidable crook.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

When you atone for releasing this Islamic scourge upon the world, then we'll give you your proper thanks.

Carter's "proper thanks" is coming -- in the form of the dispassionate judgement of history. I predict there will be only one other president judged as more despicable.

[penowa]

If you don't know what any of that means, you either did not live here or were too young to remember what life was like under the Carter administration.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

I've always thanked Jimmy Carter for fighting off that killer rabbit.

That's right. If the killer rabbit had succeeded, the economy might have improved and Reagan might not have been elected. We sure lucked out.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Astronomical rates on bank CDs, however.

[penowa]

For those of us who lived through his presidency with the 22% interest rate, the gas lines with gas only sold on even or odd days depending on your license plate's last number, the unemployment lines winding many times around the block in every city and town, the Iranian hostages, our hollow military with helicopters that could not fly far enough to carry out a secret hostage rescue mission, we regarded him as a totally inept, befuddled fool who had a crooked brother and a bunch of people in his administration who were crooks and screw-ups, but we didn't hold him responsible. Now that we have the files from the old Soviet Union, we have discovered the real reason Jimmy appeared like a bumbling fool was because he was so busy shaking down our allies like the Shah of Iran for big bucks and promising to take him down if he didn't comply, he couldn't be bothered with running the country. He was busy making deals to sell out the country to the Soviets and any other tinpot commies while trying to get them to help him stay in office so he could do more damage for another 4 yrs. He is the cause of our problems in the Middle East today. He aided Khomeni and the Islamic movement so he could get even with the Shah for not paying him and his friends the bribes they demanded. Old Jimmy the churchgoing fool has been exposed for what he really is - a crooked commie traitor!

[penowa]

I predict there will be only one other president judged as more despicable.

I agree completely. If we've had worse presidents than Carter and Clinton, then someone has done a touch-up job on all of our history books.