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I am not attacking the Pope on any religious grounds.
I am merely passing this on.

The AP translation can be found

1 posted on 12/22/2005 3:46:21 PM PST by rmlew
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To: rmlew

Of course you aren't.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 3:49:18 PM PST by brivette
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To: rmlew

It is sad. Our American version of conservative is so much different than the rest of the world's version. Seems like European conservatives are really just less liberal socialists.


4 posted on 12/22/2005 3:54:53 PM PST by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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To: rmlew
This is a truly depressing development. Instead of standing for Europe's Catholic history, the Pope is calling for integration, multi-culturalism, and social welfare.

From the French AP Story:
“Internal violence, which marks societies and which one cannot but condemn, serves nevertheless as a message, especially from the young, urging us to take their demands into consideration”, emphasized Benedict XVI.
So we should reward disorder?
Their demands are welfare and submission.

“Your country has welcomed a large number of foreign workers and their families, who have greatly contributed to the development of your nation since the end of the Second World War”, he added. “Today it is important to thank them, and their descendants, for the economic, cultural and social wealth in which they have participated. Most of them have thus become full-fledged French citizens.”
Is the Pope actually confusing the industrious and assimilated immigrants like the parents of Interior Minister Nikolas Sarkozy with the Arabs of the Banliues?

For Benedict XVI, “the challenge today is to live by the values of equality and fraternity (...) taking care that all citizens, while respecting legitimate differences, are able to forge a genuine common culture that bears fundamental moral and spiritual values.”
Which values? Is he speaking of Catholic France, Revolutionary France, the French Republic, Multi-culturalist France, or of Islam?

“It is also important to propose to the young both an ideal of society and a personal ideal”, he added. “The final word is that your country is being called upon to take additional measures toward the integration of everyone into society. The same is true of other nations on the Continent, and this in the name of the intrinsic dignity of each person that is central in our society.” “Social peace comes about, to a great extent, at this price”, he concluded.
What of the nee4d of immigrants to assimilate? What of the need of certain groups to give up their desire to CONQUER France and the west?
Why the heck should France integrate a growing Fifth Column?

5 posted on 12/22/2005 3:55:08 PM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: dennisw; Paleo Conservative; Willie Green; Coleus

ping


6 posted on 12/22/2005 3:56:51 PM PST by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: rmlew
And when will Christians understand that unless the Church stands with this civilization against its mortal enemies, the civilization and the Church will die together?

What civilization? Secular, socialist Europe, that doesn't care enough about its own survival to replace its native population through reproduction?

The statement quoted sounds like "Appropriate remark!" boilerplate, rather than anything composed to make a real point, but it wouldn't surprise me if Pope Benedict thinks there's a greater chance of mass conversions of Moslems than there is of a rebirth of Christianity among culture-of-death ethnic Europeans.

7 posted on 12/22/2005 3:57:18 PM PST by Tax-chick ("Dick Cheney never trims his own nails. He simply stares at them until the tips melt off.")
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To: rmlew

Pope Pollyanna. I'm kind of cringing.


12 posted on 12/22/2005 4:02:46 PM PST by Kitten Festival (The thug of Caracas has got to go.)
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To: rmlew

There is considerable evidence that Pope Benedict is less naive about Islam than his predecessor was. He also is on record concerning the importance of Europe returning to its Christian roots.

I don't know what to make of this pap, unless it is just PR babble. I doubt whether it's what he really thinks, and I don't know why he would say it.


13 posted on 12/22/2005 4:03:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: rmlew

The Pope is turning out to as as pathetic as the last one when it comes to recognizing and combatting the threat of Islamofascism. It is to John Paul II's great shame that he never spoke one word about the slow-motion genocide of Christians at the hands of Muslims worldwide.


15 posted on 12/22/2005 4:07:55 PM PST by montag813
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I don't understand why he can't blame the INDIVIDUAL instead of others. THAT is liberal think.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 4:12:15 PM PST by nmh (Intelligent people believe in Intelligent Design (God))
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To: rmlew

I suppose this means Pope Benedict XVI is not the man to depend upon to lead Europe on another Crusade to save European civilization and Christianity from the pillaging Muslim hordes who are aiming to subjugate and sack the place once again, for the umpteenth time in 1400 years?


19 posted on 12/22/2005 4:22:20 PM PST by Gritty ("Liberals like charges against Tom DeLay more than charges against Saddam HusseinAnn Coulter)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


21 posted on 12/22/2005 4:48:58 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: rmlew

I'm looking for a report on the story that hasn't been "filtered" by the opinion of the Associated Press, so we can see more of the context. If anyone finds one please post it here.


23 posted on 12/22/2005 4:59:14 PM PST by mhx
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To: rmlew
Otto Kerner was a co-Ethnic of Benedict XVI, although a Lutheran I believe.

Here's hoping that Papa Ratzi doesn't share any of Otto's other proclivity for graft.

27 posted on 12/23/2005 6:45:17 AM PST by Clemenza (Smartest words ever written by a Communist: "Show me the way to the next Whiskey Bar")
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