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France legalises music, movies download on Internet
Xinhuanet ^ | Dec. 22, 2005 | Xinhuanet

Posted on 12/22/2005 1:36:15 PM PST by indcons

PARIS, Dec. 22 (Xinhuanet) -- France lower house of parliament on Thursday voted to legalise music and movies download on Internet, running counter to moves in most other Western countries, where such downloads are illegal in order to protect copyright.

The measure, introduced as two amendments to a government bill designed to toughen digital copyright protection, deems that downloading copyrighted files is legal as long as it is for private use only and the internet users pays a general fee for royalty payments.

The French government has called for a second vote in the National Assembly.

French Culture Minister Renaud Donnedieu de Vabres said later Thursday that he was determined to go back on the vote.

French former Culture Minister Jack Lang of the opposition Socialist Party said Thursday that it was necessary to give the time for reflection over the law bill concerning copyright on internet.

The measure in any case would have to pass the Senate and again the lower house before it becomes law.

Some French entertainers, though, protested the parliamentary vote, fearing their livelihoods would be threatened if it became law.

Groups representing companies in the cinema and music industries issued a joint statement decrying what they described as "the expropriation of authors' rights on the Internet" and calling for the government to intervene.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: downloading; france; internet; musicdownloads; web
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I don't know what to make of this....one one hand, I hate the music industry's persecution of people who downloaded music (even when it was done by a friend/relative over that person's computer). On the other hand, this new French law reeks of socialism.
1 posted on 12/22/2005 1:36:17 PM PST by indcons
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To: indcons

Interesting. I guess we'll have to wait and see how it plays out.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 1:37:32 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: indcons

Eh, not enough people want Frog music, so no harm to their music industry.


3 posted on 12/22/2005 1:38:13 PM PST by dynachrome ("Where am I? Where am I going? Why am I in a handbasket?")
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And of course they are making theft legal. Leave it to the French.

But hey, we have made the theft of property by local governments legal through Supreme Court fiat, so we are no better.

4 posted on 12/22/2005 1:39:29 PM PST by big'ol_freeper ("Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought." Pope JPII)
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Mixed emotions, huh? Like seeing your mother-in-law driving your brand new Caddie off a cliff. Hate France so much, can't admit when they do something right?

In the end, such laws matter less than jaywalking (and thousands of other) laws do in the United States. Who gets caught and punished? Downloading will continue one way or another.

5 posted on 12/22/2005 1:40:52 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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iCheese


6 posted on 12/22/2005 1:42:15 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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To: indcons

frogCasting


7 posted on 12/22/2005 1:42:40 PM PST by YouPosting2Me
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It is already legal to download music.

If you don't believe me, go to:

http://music.download.com


8 posted on 12/22/2005 1:45:04 PM PST by proxy_user
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To: Revolting cat!

"Mixed emotions, huh? Like seeing your mother-in-law driving your brand new Caddie off a cliff. Hate France so much, can't admit when they do something right?"

LMAO....you got that right!!


9 posted on 12/22/2005 1:45:48 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Great, Just as long as I can get Prussian Blue for free.


10 posted on 12/22/2005 1:49:04 PM PST by Westlander (Unleash the Neutron Bomb)
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To: proxy_user

WEnt to that site and searched for a few tracks...looks like only unknown artists' music is for free on that site. They provide only samples of known artists.


11 posted on 12/22/2005 1:49:30 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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They should legalize having a pair.........


12 posted on 12/22/2005 1:50:13 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: big'ol_freeper

Wouldn't governments still have to compensate people for taking their property?


13 posted on 12/22/2005 1:50:44 PM PST by mlc9852
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""Wouldn't governments still have to compensate people for taking their property?""

What? How absurd. You are referring to reality.


14 posted on 12/22/2005 1:52:33 PM PST by InsureAmerica (Evil? I have many words for it. We are as dust, to them. - v v putin)
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To: InsureAmerica

Sorry. I'll try not to do that in the future.:)


15 posted on 12/22/2005 1:54:56 PM PST by mlc9852
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To: indcons

That's not the issue in dispute. It's whether 'downloading music' is legal or illegal. What is on the site IS music, and it is legal to download it.

And a lot of it is actually quite good. More and more artists will be doing this, sucking the life out of the official 'music industry' until it withers away.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 1:55:23 PM PST by proxy_user
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I hope I'm wrong, but this is far more insidious than it appears at first glance. This is the part that weirds me out:

deems that downloading copyrighted files is legal as long as it is for private use only and the internet users pays a general fee for royalty payments.

How do you suppose that will happen?
By imposing a universal fee on all internet use! Governments love this sort of thing, like the fee placed on all blank audio and video tape that we buy, whether it's used to duplicate copyright material or not.

On the net use, once one hidden fee is attached, it's all over.

Guess what the level of the internet use tax will be in 10 years...

17 posted on 12/22/2005 1:58:41 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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Excellent points.....never crossed my mind. You're absolutely right.


18 posted on 12/22/2005 2:00:02 PM PST by indcons (FReepmail indcons to join the MilHist ping list)
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To: Publius6961

Tax? God, NO! When was the last time you examined your telephone bill? Your cable bill? What's another nickel or two a month? You and I won't notice, as we haven't before.


19 posted on 12/22/2005 2:03:03 PM PST by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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It's the WORLD Wide Web.. how will they keep people from outside France from downloading?

It's similar to certain sites (*cough*Pirate's Bay*cough*) where they get away with downloading virtually anything from popular games to the latest movies because the country (Sweden) where the website is based has different laws. The site thumbs it's nose at the RIAA etc.

But it ain't just Swede's downloading from there...


20 posted on 12/22/2005 2:08:49 PM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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