I don't fit into either of those boxes, so in your world, maybe I don't exist. :~D I'd just to remind you that no matter what you see women as... the only thing that really matters in the long run for the women in your own life is what ~she~ sees herself as. Roles are not something that is imposed, they are chosen, and they have to be good for both parties to keep working. That's the reality today. There just is no longer one role. We have, instead, a rather complex world where we have Laura Bush and Condi Rice. We have my good friend who would take no other life than to raise her kids, and myself who does not want that but has a life ahead with my husband that we hope to enjoy. It's more complex now, because while women's options have changed, men's haven't so much... unless they want to count as a benefit that they have more types of women to choose from. Obviously, many don't think that's a benefit. But if guys think they can decide the future of women for them, they're shouting behind the horse after the horse has got out of the gate, I'm afraid.
I guess the point I see is that if a woman wants a career and children she had better have the children first. Again see 218.