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Surveillance Debate: Today Show Quakes for Quakers, Ignores Radicalism of Catholic Workers
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/22/2005 5:01:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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To: mewzilla
Have they done anything on the strike?

There was strike coverage, but while they talked about fines being imposed on the union and even possible jail time for the union leaders, Today continued its blackout on explaining to viewers that the strike is illegal. Ironically, it was the UNION leader who was shown uttering the word "illegal," in reference to something he alleged management had done!

21 posted on 12/22/2005 5:32:16 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

In contrast, Lauren Green at Fox & Friends just flatly referred to the strike as an "illegal walkout."


22 posted on 12/22/2005 5:33:58 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: Bahbah; governsleastgovernsbest
Use the word Quaker and people get a mental picture of the peaceful Pilgrims settling in this country. They need to look beyond that mental image.

Absolutely. I Googled "radical Quakers" and found this site.
http://www.quaker.org/renewal.html

... while Quaker pacifists were joined by a wide variety of people in constructing the American peace movement of the 1950s and 1960s, this small group welded enormous influence. Ultimately, the notion of prefigurative politics fostered second wave feminism, spurred an alternative culture, and inspired a new environmental movement--demonstrating a continuity among the diverse social movements that have come to comprise American radicalism.

I don't know if this is the same bunch that was discussed on the Today Show, but if so, they sound like Socialists and Commies in Quaker clothing.

23 posted on 12/22/2005 5:35:43 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: silent_jonny

THere is also a "world" group that would be interesting to monitor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friends_World_Committee_for_Consultation


24 posted on 12/22/2005 5:38:47 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I'm sure everyone noticed that Buchanan was not in the studio as the liberal was.

Pat tried to respond to her ridiculous assertions and was told by Couric to "hold-on Pat" until they framed their accusations to their liking.

25 posted on 12/22/2005 5:39:05 AM PST by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: silent_jonny
they sound like Socialists and Commies in Quaker clothing.

jonny, I think you are on to something :)

26 posted on 12/22/2005 5:40:05 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: Aquinasfan
"Look, I don't know if or why surveillance was conducted of the Quakers. But when vanden Heuvel lumped them in with the Catholic Workers, she seriously overplayed her hand."

Aren't Quaker peaceniks just as nutty?

You bet. It wouldn't be surprising at all to find that people in Quaker groups had connections with those collaborating with enemy operatives. It was the case in earlier wars.

During the Vietnam War, Quakerism was very fashionable because it could get you conscientious objector status, and hence out of the draft. So a tremendous number of Lefties came into the movement, which has been more political than religious in flavor in many regions for a half-century.

The Quakers and related outfits, such as the Fellowship of Reconciliation, were stocked with Lefties anyway because Quakers in this country are pretty exclusively wealthy.

There was heavy infiltration by the KGB into all these organizations, and they tend to be lunatic anti-American to this day.

27 posted on 12/22/2005 5:41:19 AM PST by SamuraiScot
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To: texianyankee
Watching Fox & Friends again this morning...

Did you hear the bit relating to the "bin Laden satellite phone being disclosed by Wash. Times in 1998?" F&F asserted that it is an urban legend that the 1998 disclosure bin Laden used a satellite phone was "a leak." The same information was printed in 1996 in Time magazine, and bin Laden openly gave interviews via satellite phone.

They went on to speculate that what MIGHT have been a leak was the ability to triangulate satellite phone signals and locate the transmitter.

28 posted on 12/22/2005 5:42:31 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If you have nothing to hide
why would you be afraid of a
a little spying?
BTTT.


29 posted on 12/22/2005 5:48:41 AM PST by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: Bahbah; Raycpa; All
How about this group: American Friends Service Committee (pop-up warning)

The AFSC was formed in 1917 by a group of 14 socialist Quakers to aid draft resisters. AFSC has been penetrated and used by Communists since the early 1920s ...

Since the 1960s, the AFSC has supported revolutionary terrorist groups such as the Vietcong, Palestine Liberation Organization(PLO), and the Central American Castroite groups.

"before we deplore terrorism, it is essential for us to recognize whose ‘terrorism’ came first...."

Yep, just a bunch of harmless peace-loving Quakers /sarc

30 posted on 12/22/2005 5:53:28 AM PST by silent_jonny
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Geez, I wish the word "Catholic" could be copyrighted so idiots could not use it.

Merry Christmas Dear Heart!!! And thanks for all you do!


31 posted on 12/22/2005 6:12:31 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom

Many thanks, and the very same to you.

PS: I will gladly accept that 'Merry Christmas' as a "Happy Chanukah" in my case ;-)


32 posted on 12/22/2005 6:17:43 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Does Katie or Buchanan even know who and what the Quakers are?


33 posted on 12/22/2005 6:30:12 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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To: netmilsmom

As to the Catholic Workers, I've gone to their web site:

http://www.catholicworker.org/roundtable/easyessays.cfm#%3Cstrong%3ETaking%20Over%3C/strong%3E

On the one hand, they state that they are "not Communists." On the other hand they clearly sympathize with various Marxists goals.

Under the heading "Taking Over," they state:

"Patriots believe that the way to bring about a classless society is a class war between the Capitalist State and the working class."


34 posted on 12/22/2005 6:33:01 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Hey!
My sister used to invite one of her fellow teachers to our Christmas Buffet. Being Jewish, she and her family had never been to a Christmas celebration before. I hear her 11 year old say to her brother, "Wow, this is just like on the Soap Operas!"
It became a yearly event. Pitifully, not being the hostess, I was never invited to the Chanukah celebration. :-(

I'd take some spare Latkas anytime!
Happy Chanukah, FRiend!


35 posted on 12/22/2005 6:40:55 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Ya know! They are wacked.


36 posted on 12/22/2005 6:41:33 AM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Anybody know how many Quakers have been arrested?


37 posted on 12/22/2005 6:50:30 AM PST by Liberty Valance ("Can't hide Freedom's song." ~ Starwise)
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To: Mo1
Does Katie or Buchanan even know who and what the Quakers are?

They make oatmeal, don't they?

38 posted on 12/22/2005 6:53:43 AM PST by gridlock (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: All

Members of the Catholic Workers have a history of actions at military installations. For example, read this account of the actions of Peter DeMott, one of the four convicted of spraying blood at the recruitment center:

"On December 13, 1980 Peter DeMott, former seminarian and Vietnam veteran from Jonah House, entered the General Dynamics Electric Boat (EB) shipyard in Groton, Connecticut during the launch ceremony for the "USS Baltimore" fast attack submarine. Noticing an empty EB security van with keys in it, he got into the van and repeatedly rammed the Trident "USS Florida" denting the rudder. Security guards then broke into the van and arrested him. He was tried by a jury in New London Superior Court and convicted of criminal mischief and criminal trespass. He was sentenced to one year in jail."

Here is a link:

http://www.plowshares.se/aktioner/plowcron2.htm


39 posted on 12/22/2005 6:54:00 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: gridlock

LOL!


40 posted on 12/22/2005 6:54:27 AM PST by Mo1 (Republicans protect Americans from Terrorists. Democrats protect Terrorists from Americans)
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