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Surveillance Debate: Today Show Quakes for Quakers, Ignores Radicalism of Catholic Workers
Today Show/NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 12/22/2005 5:01:11 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest

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1 posted on 12/22/2005 5:01:13 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; netmilsmom; Diogenesis; YaYa123; MEG33; ...

Today Show/NewsBusters ping.


2 posted on 12/22/2005 5:02:02 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I am reminded on another thread that Clinton ordered warrantless searches of public housing facilities.

The collective amnesia of the left is really amusing.


3 posted on 12/22/2005 5:04:48 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Look, I don't know if or why surveillance was conducted of the Quakers. But when vanden Heuvel lumped them in with the Catholic Workers, she seriously overplayed her hand.

Aren't Quaker peaceniks just as nutty?

4 posted on 12/22/2005 5:06:56 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
And in fairness, Couric hit vanden Heuvel with a tough first question:

"Katrina, what makes you so humorless? Does it go way back to your childhood when your dad gave you the toaster and the radio as bath toys?"

5 posted on 12/22/2005 5:08:54 AM PST by beyond the sea (If you need a really new idea ..................... read a really old book.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
...but this President has committed the most abuse of executive power in modern American history.

Then vanden Heuvel must support the release of the Barrett Report? Nothing to see there, Katrina, right?

6 posted on 12/22/2005 5:08:55 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I saw a little of this today. I cannot stand the three of them--difficult to watch.


7 posted on 12/22/2005 5:09:00 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Have they done anything on the strike?


8 posted on 12/22/2005 5:09:34 AM PST by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Watching Fox & Friends again this morning.....

Alison, Brian, & Steve


9 posted on 12/22/2005 5:10:18 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: Peach
I am reminded on another thread that Clinton ordered warrantless searches of public housing facilities.

The ladies bathrooms no doubt - National Security matter. :) It is easy to see how conservatives could come down on all sides of this issue. The "It Takes a Village" liberals being concerned about civil liberties is a bit much though. Since 2000, I have said that if George Bush declared a war on hemorrhoids, every liberal would want them.

10 posted on 12/22/2005 5:15:45 AM PST by IamConservative (Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times will pick himself up and carry on.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In case I forget..many thanks for your great reports all year. I'm so happy for you that your Today show reports have been picked up on News Busters...Have you been getting more feedback and attention?

And BTW...Happy Hannukah!!!

11 posted on 12/22/2005 5:16:52 AM PST by ken5050 (Ann Coulter needs to have children ASAP to pass on her gene pool....any volunteers?)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Catholic Workers sounds a lot like World Workers Party. I can't find it on Discover the Network http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/default.asp
but I sent them the question. I hope they investigate.


12 posted on 12/22/2005 5:20:01 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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Since 2000, I have said that if George Bush declared a war on hemorrhoids, every liberal would want them.

Just ROFL!

13 posted on 12/22/2005 5:20:06 AM PST by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they ever captured or killed.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Catholic Workers sounds a lot like World Workers Party. I can't find it on Discover the Network http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/default.asp
but I sent them the question. I hope they investigate.


14 posted on 12/22/2005 5:20:37 AM PST by AmericaUnite
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I wonder who was at that Quaker meeting. Do I want useful idiots watched when being used by those who would do harm to Americans? You bet I do. Use the word Quaker and people get a mental picture of the peaceful Pilgrims settling in this country. They need to look beyond that mental image. These people were willingly used during the Viet Nam war and they are just as prone to being used again.


15 posted on 12/22/2005 5:21:15 AM PST by Bahbah (Free Scooter; Tony Schaffer for the US Senate)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Fox & Friends showing their bus unloading again.

Seems the bus is provided by CitySightsNY.


16 posted on 12/22/2005 5:25:52 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The group of four "peace activists" that were "kidnapped" in Iraq last month belonged to the Christian something something group. The one American in this group is a Quaker, according to publicity by his daughter.

Perhaps, if there has been surveillance on Quakers, it has been on people like this guy. Women who support Code Pink activities camouflage themselves as Friends when they go into high schools to recruit young girls to theur radical leftist causes.


17 posted on 12/22/2005 5:26:32 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Bernie Goldberg is suppose to be coming up soon on F&F.


18 posted on 12/22/2005 5:27:37 AM PST by texianyankee
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

More about the Catholic Workers and their attack on a military recruitment center in Ithaca:

The St. Patrick's Four and Resistance to the War in Iraq
by Bill Quigley

"Have you heard about the St. Patrick's Four? Of course not. They aren't going to tell you about the St. Patrick's Four. The St. Patrick's Four were four people from the Catholic peace movement who, on St. Patrick's Day last year, poured their blood around at a military recruiting station in Ithaca, New York, and they were put on trial. And the jury refused to convict. It was a hung jury. So I'm hopeful about the future of this country based on the idea that people have a certain common decency and that when they learn the truth, the truth has a power that can overcome even the most sophisticated of propaganda machines that they government has and the media collaborate with."
- Howard Zinn, May 8, 2004, "The Power of the People," The Progressive, May 8, 2004. This was Zinn's speech to The Progressive's 95th Anniversary Party. www.progressive.org/95/zinn95.html

Two years ago today, March 17, 2003, four peace activists in Ithaca, New York, poured their own blood on the walls, posters, windows, and a US flag at a military recruiting center in order to try to stop the imminent invasion of Iraq. They took action based on international law. Then knelt in prayer and waited to be arrested. Though one state court jury refused to convict them, today they face serious federal charges.

Last year the peace activists convinced nine members of a state court jury that their actions were consistent with international law. Daniel Burns, 43, Clare Grady, 45, Teresa Grady 38, and Peter DeMott, 57, all members of the Magnificat Catholic Worker community in Ithaca, admitted to the jury from the very beginning that they poured blood in the recruiting center in order to try to stop the war in Iraq. They testified they risked arrest in order to protect our sons and daughters in the military and to protect our sisters and brothers in Iraq.

Entire article:

http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0317-32.htm


19 posted on 12/22/2005 5:30:19 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (Watching the Today Show since 2002 so you don't have to.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The libs really truly believe that Bush lied to get us into Iraq. From that perspective, these fears of spying must be very real to them.


20 posted on 12/22/2005 5:31:52 AM PST by Raycpa
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