Posted on 12/21/2005 4:49:38 PM PST by Aussie Dasher
Exactly, the Conservatives have no chance in Canada, unless they separate and form their own government I'm thinking of Alberta. I don't think Conservatives have a hope in the East were the elections are practically decided. It's a lost cause for them.
Alberta will do much better on its own.
I might prefer Martin to stay on as he may be the weakest person to fight for Quebec staying in.
But, if they REALLY want to separate, let them. They keep saying this for as long as I can remember I was a kid when my dad got me interested in politics and I heard about Quebec separation. In my opinion, this separation issue will never stop because it's a power tool for Quebecers.
Educate me, please.
I understand, I think, what Quebec gets from continuing to remain within Canada (they receive more government money than they remit in taxes). But what is it that the rest of Canada, or the rest of non-Conservative Canada, gets from having Quebec remain within Canada?
Sepratists would first have to win a referendum before being "allowed" to separate. If it were up to me, they would have been kicked out already. The sepratists were 50 000 votes shy of winning the last referendum in 1995. If it hadn't been for the previous federal governments importing hundreds of thousands of foreign third worlders into Montreal (90%+ of whom vote liberal and no to separation), the sepratists would have won.
The liberal saps outside of quebec want quebec to stay even though they are a drain on the rest of the country. Being an honest conservative, I want the opposite.
Nothing. The federal government funnels a lot of money from Alberta to the have-not provinces like Quebec and the Maritimes. Albertans in return get very little from their government.
So maybe a weak Martin is the option.
Are the Quebecers the only ones who get to vote on whether or not they remain within Canada?
Not sure. Wanna help me with this FD?
Hmmm, only Quebecers voted, and will be voting in any future referendum. If I was advising the sepratists, I would tell them if it was close like last time, to "exclude" the votes of some solid federalists areas on the borders of Ontario and New Brunswick and let those areas stay with canada and take the rest of Quebec out.
Hell, I wouldn't count the votes of recent immigrants on the premise that they were brought here by the federal government for the sole purpose of voting liberal and no to separation. They can move to Canada if they don't want to live in an independent Quebec.
As to why the rest of canada wants to Quebec to stay, probably the same irrationality that some conservative Albertans have for wanting to stay in canada even though they get a lousy deal by doing so...sentimentality.
Sentimentality and Liberalism if I might add. Liberalism is a mental disease, you know. :-)
Thanks for the explanations.
Sorry, there was no minority government in 1984, in fact the largest majority government ever was elected in 9/84 when Mulroney won 211 of 282 seats. The previous government was a majority won by TURDeau in 1980 which was only 147 of 282 seats won after that closet liberal retard joe clark threw away a minority government he won 9 months later.
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