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Now President Bush is Lying: Why?
NationalLedger.com ^ | Dec 20, 2005 | JB Williams

Posted on 12/20/2005 8:21:20 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican

In the President’s address to the nation Sunday the 18th, 2005, he made this statement, “It is true that Saddam Hussein had a history of pursuing and using weapons of mass destruction. It is true that he systematically concealed those programs, and blocked the work of U.N. weapons inspectors. It is true that many nations believed that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction. But much of the intelligence turned out to be wrong.”

This is the confession many Americans have been demanding for years now and for what-ever reason, the President decided to make this confession before the world community in this address. But is this a true and accurate assessment of the situation as we now know it, based on the facts?

(Excerpt) Read more at nationalledger.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: a; alqaeda; brokebackbrain; bush; bushlied; hussein; iraq; is; lie; moron; plainbrain; plainoldcrap; poster; stainoleamerican; terroism; troll; war; wmd; zotme; zotsfortots
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To: Cicero

Please. An inflammatory title in breaking news with a link that is a pop-up mess. Then the poster takes a well-timed bathroom break. Its zot-a-palooza for those a little quick on the trigger.


81 posted on 12/20/2005 8:48:00 PM PST by rockinonritalin
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To: sageb1; eyespysomething; PlainOleAmerican
Good article, actually. Warn us next time, please :)

For those who got past the pop-ups and read the article, the zot really shouldn't have been a question.

I agree with the bulk of the commentary ... Those of us who care have known that a) Iraq did have WMD; b) Iraq likely had more WMD that went Syria's way; c) The intelligence was as solid as could be expected/hoped for; d) Saddam's sons got what they deserved and what he deserved, too.

I'm glad Bush is on the offensive, finally, but this portion of his speech felt, to me, like he'd sold me out for my continued support.

82 posted on 12/20/2005 8:48:06 PM PST by SittinYonder (That's how I saw it, and see it still.)
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To: swheats

I'm just glad he's a Republican.

I'd hate to have him on the *other* side....;D


83 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:04 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

PlainOleAmerican = JB Williams...

What part of America do you come from and what is your ties to TNL? Your damn pop ups are very annoying consequently my first and only trip to your site....

Breaking news.... not hardly, but you make some good points.


84 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:19 PM PST by deport (Merry Christmas; Feliz Navidad; Buon Natale; Joyeux Noël to one and all and Happy Holidays to.)
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To: Salamander

LOL!!! What a pic!


85 posted on 12/20/2005 8:49:21 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: TheForceOfOne

What the heck is all-in-one-secret maker? :) Share info!


86 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:11 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Maybe he believes that if we don't tell them we know where they're, they won't move them before et hem... we go in and take them away.


87 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:13 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: Cicero
So was Bush wise to admit that intelligence on WMDs was wrong?

There was some background noise about the Pentagon having satelite pictures of the convoys leaving the weapons sites heading into Syria in the early days of the war. I kept waiting for them to release the photos or information and it never happened.

Some reason for this might be:

The weapons are embarrassing to an ally (read Russia).
The Pentagon does not want to advertise to nefarious groups WHERE the weapons are now.
Maybe they are waiting for a very opportune time to release this information like during the 2006 election cycle.
Maybe the Administration wants to put their hands on the weapons before they reveal they exist.
88 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:15 PM PST by msnimje (Political Correctness -- An OFFENSIVE attempt not to offend.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I'm impressed. You got a response. I see the mods moved it out of breaking but left it up. Well, they're the mods. It's their call.


89 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:22 PM PST by PAR35
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To: MNJohnnie

Site loaded fine for me, then I ran a scan after reading your post. Clean.


90 posted on 12/20/2005 8:50:27 PM PST by SouthTexas (A Merry and Blessed Christmas to all.)
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To: Cicero

Apparently NOT!

I'm being hacked to death here by people who didn;t bother to read the column...

I thought much better then that of freepers.... until now!


91 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:24 PM PST by PlainOleAmerican
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To: Xenophobic Alien

Yes, but a better question is did I hear the speech Sunday. Which I didn't.

The article appears to chronicle much of what we've heard since the Iraq war.

What don't you agree with and did you read the full article?


92 posted on 12/20/2005 8:51:35 PM PST by swheats
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To: PlainOleAmerican

I don't want to go back to the site to find out, but do they have a policy saying you can't post the entire article here? The article was good, but the website is awful!


93 posted on 12/20/2005 8:52:04 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: MNJohnnie

You aren't paranoid.
They've found ways to embed some awful -invisiable- stuff into websites.

I don't go to "bad places" yet have had things load themselves onto my PC without knowledge several times.

I have no idea what sites they came from so apparently even some "nice" websites are affected.

[I suspect the rock song lyric sites I visited since I've gotten alerts from some of them]

It's getting to be nerve-wracking out here.


94 posted on 12/20/2005 8:53:07 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: sageb1

Here you go! :)

http://www.secretmaker.com/


95 posted on 12/20/2005 8:53:19 PM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: PlainOleAmerican

Bush has it right in the war on terror -any poltical defeats in the US lay at the feet of the several assorted elected spineless Republicans that attempt to pacify the whining liberals with fairness and compromise. The liberals should be given no quarter -period. The only good liberal is a liberal following Republican leadership without whining...


96 posted on 12/20/2005 8:54:56 PM PST by DBeers (†)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
"I thought much better then that of freepers.... until now!"

Clearly that "degree in BS" will take you far in life...as in far away from Free Republic...

97 posted on 12/20/2005 8:55:09 PM PST by StAnDeliver
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To: SittinYonder
"I agree with the bulk of the commentary ... Those of us who care have known that a) Iraq did have WMD; b) Iraq likely had more WMD that went Syria's way; c) The intelligence was as solid as could be expected/hoped for; d) Saddam's sons got what they deserved and what he deserved, too. I'm glad Bush is on the offensive, finally, but this portion of his speech felt, to me, like he'd sold me out for my continued support."

Agree with all of what you said. It's like everytime "one of ours" says that yes, the intel was wrong, I want to shake someone and yell, "Why don't you say "some think the intel was wrong, but we have reason to believe it was right!"

98 posted on 12/20/2005 8:56:12 PM PST by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: PlainOleAmerican
This is the confession many Americans have been demanding for years now and for what-ever reason, the President decided to make this confession before the world community in this address.

Look, if my buddy tells me that 2+2=5 and I believe him because he's a professor of mathematics at Cal Tech, but later I find out his information was INCORRECT, and I tell you so: that is not a "confession". You could say it is an "acknowledgment of an error", a "correction of a factual misstatement", a "boner" or even a "admission" (as in an "admission of an honest mistake"), but it's not a CONFESSION. We all know that the Left-Wing of the Democratic Party and their fellow travelers, in their never-ending desire to achieve tit-for-tat vengeance for the "wrongs" done to their precious President Slick Willie psychically desire and need an "I did not have sex with that woman, Miss Lewinsky" moment, but that moment should not come through a cheap rhetorical distortion.

100 posted on 12/20/2005 8:56:49 PM PST by pawdoggie
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