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4 GOP Senators Hold Firm Against Patriot Act Renewal
Washington Post ^ | Charles Babington | Charles Babington

Posted on 12/20/2005 6:58:23 PM PST by ncountylee

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-Tenn.) could barely conceal his anger.

"The Patriot Act expires on December 31, but the terrorist threat does not," he told reporters at the Capitol yesterday. "Those on the Senate floor who are filibustering the Patriot Act are killing the Patriot Act."

There was just one problem. Well, four problems, actually. Four of the 46 senators using the delaying tactic to thwart the USA Patriot Act renewal are members of Frist's party. It is a pesky, irritating fact for Republicans who are eager to portray the impasse as Democratic obstructionism, and a ready-made rejoinder for Democrats expecting campaign attacks on the issue in 2006 and 2008.

The four Republican rebels -- Larry E. Craig (Idaho), Chuck Hagel (Neb.), John E. Sununu (N.H.) and Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) -- have joined all but two Senate Democrats in arguing that more civil liberties safeguards need to be added to the proposed renewal of the Patriot Act.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Alabama; US: Idaho; US: Nebraska; US: New Hampshire; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; civiliberties; craig; gop; gwot; hagel; larrycraig; murkowski; nationalsecurity; obstructionistdems; patriotact; sununu; terrorism; wot
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To: FreeReign

He doesn't understand "plain English".


281 posted on 12/20/2005 9:49:03 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I'm really tired of the argument, to tell you the truth. And the more I listen to it, and the closer I listen to it, it seems to come from the clintonistas.

Don't do what I do, because we might use it against you!

282 posted on 12/20/2005 9:49:46 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: nopardons

"{I made a typo......you can't write a complete sentence. :-)"

Hello, my name is Dick. See Jane run.

When you have learned those, I will give you some more sentences to practice.


283 posted on 12/20/2005 9:51:16 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: 7mmMag@LeftCoast
And that has been the law of the land for over 20 years.

And obviously then, has nothing to do with the Patriot Act...

The admisinstration did not create any of these 'rules'. They are tenants well grounded in law, based on a decision of the Federal Courts in 'U.S. vs. Truong' and in two court cases that went before the Foriegn Intelligence Surveilance Court of Appeals,

Well then, who made the law that was based on these cases??? Surely it wasn't the FISC...

284 posted on 12/20/2005 9:51:16 PM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: takenoprisoner
I'm not physically short.

Sometimes I write terse replies; sometimes I don't.

Usually, brevity is the soul of wit; in your case, it never is.

285 posted on 12/20/2005 9:51:46 PM PST by nopardons
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To: takenoprisoner
Ok. I'm back fool. I see you haven't said anything that makes sense or you can support with facts since I left.
286 posted on 12/20/2005 9:53:09 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: takenoprisoner
"Hello, my name is Dick. See Jane run."

I must apologize to you. Before this post you seemed to be Nancy Pelosi. Now I see you must be Robert Reich.

287 posted on 12/20/2005 9:54:15 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: nopardons; takenoprisoner
He doesn't understand "plain English".

The way he's reading it without the "and", all activities that occur within the U.S. are terrorism.

If I was him, I'd stop all activities immediately. :)

289 posted on 12/20/2005 9:57:12 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: A Citizen Reporter
Oh, it's actually far worse than that!

It's an I'll tie your hands and then, THEN, when something terrible happens, I'll say that you ( President Bush ) is responsible for it. And don't forget, not for an instant, that IF the PA doesn't get extended, them the Gorelick WALL is back in place.

290 posted on 12/20/2005 9:57:17 PM PST by nopardons
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To: ThoreauHD
I am not a society. I am me.

Precisely. And thankfully so.

291 posted on 12/20/2005 9:58:30 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: ThoreauHD
Craig has actually read the Patriot Act

Just out of curiosity, he told you that when?

292 posted on 12/20/2005 9:58:35 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: A Citizen Reporter

"Now I see you must be Robert Reich."

Interesting that you have fantasies about Robert Reich.
If I were you, I wouldn't act on those fantasies.


293 posted on 12/20/2005 10:00:07 PM PST by takenoprisoner
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To: takenoprisoner

Using your reader as a posting source now?


294 posted on 12/20/2005 10:00:52 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Rodney King

"The Patriot act ought to have a sunset provision. If it does not, then I am against it."

Amen Brother, Amen


295 posted on 12/20/2005 10:01:32 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT
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To: ThoreauHD
Your solution is worse than a nuclear bomb exploding over NYC

When you suggest the PA is worse than a nuclear explosion in NYC, I'm afraid that's where you lose me, jerkweed.

296 posted on 12/20/2005 10:02:54 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: ThoreauHD
I know what you mean, man. All activities in the U.S. are now considered terrorism. It's in Section 802, man. Have you seen it?

These other jerkweeds have no idea, man.

Right?

297 posted on 12/20/2005 10:02:57 PM PST by FreeReign
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To: plain talk

Care to explain why it shouldn't have a sunset provision?

In my opinion, ALL laws should come with an automatic sunset provision and it should be written into the Constitution as an Amendment.

Keeps lawmakers busy and makes them do their jobs, not just knee jerk reactions to situations that affect us all.


298 posted on 12/20/2005 10:03:25 PM PST by Leatherneck_MT
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To: takenoprisoner
"Interesting that you have fantasies about Robert Reich. "

OMG, if you took my post to be a fantasy about Reich, you ,must be Sydney Bloomenthal!

299 posted on 12/20/2005 10:05:10 PM PST by A Citizen Reporter
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To: FreeReign
Right?

I think you got most of it but you forgot about the part where, if you touch me you die.

300 posted on 12/20/2005 10:07:21 PM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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