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To: The_Victor
War is for protecting your life, not your civil liberties. Some day, liberals will understand what is going on. I assume they also missed the speeches by Iran's new head that calls for the extermination of Israel and the U.S. It's fine with me, as long as they start with Hollywood.

My guess, the intelligence was officially gathered by a 'foreign agent' and passed to the U.S. The NSA loophole -- deal with it. All you need is a foreign agent at the controls of the NSA phone call eavesdrop console.

BTW, if you read the 9/11 Omission report they cite FISA as being too slow and cumbersome for fighting terrorists in the new information age.

I guess we need another "see he didn't connect the dots" event before liberals will finally get it. Only reason I can come up with for why liberals are hampering the dot connecting.

Hey defeatists -- It's a war. Get it? The terrorists want to kill us all? Get it yet?

Liberals are not to be trusted with the defense of the country.

2 posted on 12/20/2005 6:33:22 AM PST by Tarpon
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To: Tarpon
It's a war.Get it?

Therein lies the problem.

The dems and the MSM do not get it. They want the President to follow the Marquis of Queensbury rules. Give the other fellow a sporting chance.

IMHO all lawmakers should be made to watch the footage of 9/11 at least once a month. Perhaps then they might remember what we are up against.

God bless President Bush and all the brave men and women in uniform.

29 posted on 12/20/2005 6:49:21 AM PST by Churchillspirit (Anaheim Angels - 2002 World Series Champions)
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To: Tarpon

"..War is for protecting your life, not your civil liberties.."


liberals say we don't have wars, we do police action


41 posted on 12/20/2005 6:52:52 AM PST by sure_fine (*not one to over kill the thought process*)
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To: Tarpon
BTW, if you read the 9/11 Omission report they cite FISA as being too slow and cumbersome for fighting terrorists in the new information age.

Also it is too restrictive. When the FBI wanted to search the computer of Moussari (one of the 9/11/ plotters) the FISA request was turned down as not meeting the standard of probably cause. THIS WAS BEFORE THE 9/11 ATTACK. FISA rules may be the cause of the success of the 9/11 attack.

50 posted on 12/20/2005 6:55:54 AM PST by cpdiii (roughneck (oil field trash and proud off it), geologist, pilot, pharmacist, full time iconoclast)
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To: Tarpon

Liberals are not to be trusted with the defense of the country.

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Ditto! See my long-standing tag line.


91 posted on 12/20/2005 7:20:43 AM PST by Bigg Red (Do not trust Democrats with national security!)
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To: Tarpon

Echelon and Carnivore were designed to 'circumvent' laws or political controversy.

We have 'engines' that search intl phone traffic from Austrialia, England, etc.

We tell them what we found, they have equipment to search our intl calls, and report to us what they found.

Good system. Was started in principle way before Clinton was even a governor.

The only calls they 'monitor' are the ones that Echelon kicks out as suspicious, due to patterns, keywords, etc.

Not much can avoid being intercepted if it is wireless.
No matter where it is at.


131 posted on 12/20/2005 8:12:49 AM PST by UCANSEE2
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