[billbears]

Interesting. I am a Conservative Christian and a libertarian. I don't 'bash the religious folks' but do not support federal legislation forwarding a moral standard as some would around here. I don't 'promote drug abuse and sex perverts' but again do not support federal legislation to stamp this out. If you would bother looking at the Constitution (I realize most Republicans don't know what it says..) the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of these United States covers the powers needed to handle these issues and places that power at its proper place. With the states.

cause trouble for conservatives

Apparently conservative, which used to mean limited federal government and returning to a Constitutional Republic, now means supporting any federal legislation as long as it's forwarded by 'our' side in your world view

[chronic_loser]

many here who are "conservative" think that means using the powers of government to enforce socially conservative agendas. I am an evangelical Christian and believe strongly in the social agenda of the Christian right (I helped set up one of the first metro right to life centers in the USA), but I disagree strongly that the proper mechanism for this is the federal government. I am STRONGLY pro-life but I believe there is enough room for differing opinions that I am for the reversal of ROE to hand the matter back to the states. I am against drug abuse, but am against federal laws. I am against many social vices, and would work to expel "adult" bookstores from municipalities, but am against federal laws regulating same.

Many modern "social conservatives" are really just mirror images of the "liberals" (actually they are not liberals at all, but statists) in that they both want to destroy individual and state freedoms......, they just differ on the kind of fed that should destroy them.

Much of the rage of the left would be abated if conservatives were true conservatives, seeking to DEVOLVE power from the fed. They hate Bush so much because they see themselves in him, greedily slurping power to D.C., to accomplish a social agenda. The fact that they do it does not justify conservatives ignoring the constitution to "get back" at them. The way to destroy statism is not to USE the power of the stste to fight what the last bunch of statists did...., it is to abolish the power of leviathan.

If that is the definition of conservativism, then I think it is dead. All we have are moralist statists, and deviant statists, with most "conservatives" unsure of what the word means anymore.

[Sir Francis Dashwood]

I am a Conservative Christian and a libertarian... I don't 'promote drug abuse and sex perverts' but again do not support federal legislation to stamp this out.

So, molesting and giving drugs to children should be just fine as far as the federal government is concerned???

If that is how you define your brand of conservative Christianity, I have a better chance of going to heaven as an atheist than I thought!

The federal government has the Constitutional authority to regulate interstate commerce and foreign trade. The Tenth Amendment does not abrogate that in any fashion...

How liberaltarian to conveniently forget there are at least 5000 words in the U.S. Constitution before the Tenth Amendment...

But, since you are such a smug, and sanctimonious Christian; do you follow the wisdom of men or the laws of your God? (‘You cannot serve both God and Mammon.’)