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many here who are "conservative" think that means using the powers of government to enforce socially conservative agendas. I am an evangelical Christian and believe strongly in the social agenda of the Christian right (I helped set up one of the first metro right to life centers in the USA), but I disagree strongly that the proper mechanism for this is the federal government. I am STRONGLY pro-life but I believe there is enough room for differing opinions that I am for the reversal of ROE to hand the matter back to the states. I am against drug abuse, but am against federal laws. I am against many social vices, and would work to expel "adult" bookstores from municipalities, but am against federal laws regulating same.

Many modern "social conservatives" are really just mirror images of the "liberals" (actually they are not liberals at all, but statists) in that they both want to destroy individual and state freedoms......, they just differ on the kind of fed that should destroy them.

Much of the rage of the left would be abated if conservatives were true conservatives, seeking to DEVOLVE power from the fed. They hate Bush so much because they see themselves in him, greedily slurping power to D.C., to accomplish a social agenda. The fact that they do it does not justify conservatives ignoring the constitution to "get back" at them. The way to destroy statism is not to USE the power of the stste to fight what the last bunch of statists did...., it is to abolish the power of leviathan.

If that is the definition of conservativism, then I think it is dead. All we have are moralist statists, and deviant statists, with most "conservatives" unsure of what the word means anymore.