Posted on 12/19/2005 8:30:57 PM PST by Pikamax
The road-rage lobby couldn't have been more wrong. Organisations such as the Association of British Drivers or Safe Speed - the boy racers' club masquerading as a road-safety campaign - have spent years claiming that speeding doesn't cause accidents. Safe Speed, with the help of some of the most convoluted arguments I've ever read, even seeks to prove that speed cameras "make our roads more dangerous". Other groups, such as Motorists Against Detection (officially known as Mad), have been toppling, burning and blowing up the hated cameras. These and about a thousand such campaigns maintain that speed limits, speed traps and the government's "war on the motorist" are shakedown operations whose sole purpose is to extract as much money as possible from the poor oppressed driver.
Well last week the Department for Transport published the results of the study it had commissioned into the efficacy of its speed cameras. It found that the number of drivers speeding down the roads where fixed cameras had been installed fell by 70%, and the number exceeding the speed limit by more than 15mph dropped by 91%. As a result, 42% fewer people were killed or seriously injured in those places than were killed or injured on the same stretches before the cameras were erected. The number of deaths fell by more than 100 a year. The people blowing up speed cameras have blood on their hands.
But this is not, or not really, an article about speed, or cameras, or even cars. It is about the rise of the antisocial bastards who believe they should be allowed to do what they want, whenever they want, regardless of the consequences.
(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...
I suppose the question remains, if you are not a conservative, why do you frequent a forum intended for conservatives?
I am a very partisan Republican and hate liberals...
Why does a liberal like you frequent a forum intended for conservatives?
Ummm...I'm pro-life, an absolutionist on the 2nd Amendment, a proponent for small government and fiscal responsibility, and an Army veteran. Why on Earth would you consider me a liberal?
The fear here in the US isn't that the guy going over 100 mph is going to get caught, but that the person going 5 mph over the limit would get ticketed simply for being in the wrong place at the wrong time. A camera in the wrong place might also confuse drivers.
The authorities can adjust the cameras to penalize only the worst offenders, but they have a way of tightening the net to catch others when it's to their convenience, so people are wary of photographic enforcement.
In the states where people do tend to follow the speed limit, the cameras probably aren't needed.
1. You favor allowing the surrender of our young to the cultural Marxists' chemical warfare (drugs) against us.
2. You favor allowing the surrender of our young to the cultural Marxists' psychological warfare (pornography) against us.
3. You favor allowing the partial surrender of our young to the cultural Marxists' biological warfare (sex perversion) against us.
(partial, because you say you oppose abortion)
Somehow I don't think GK Chesterton was a Guardian style communist.
"Libertarian" sounds so much more honorable and upright than "Socialist", thought that idea is just a myth."
Although it's possible that some of what you've "written" could mean almost anything, it does seem unavoidable that you've somehow equated Libertarianism with Socialism. To do so essentially tells the world that you have no idea what you are talking about. Period.
I hope I'm not being "to cowrdly" for you
Hey Howie, You do know the difference between a liberal and a libertarian don't you?
Francis, I have to suggest, again, that you see a cleryman regarding your issues. He would probably be more kind to you than a shrink. You'd wouldn't like what the shrink would tell you.
And I'll vomit.
It is kind of a shame all those men fought so long for liberty only to have their descendants and inheritors fritter it away.
By the way,was there no sex crimes,drug addiction,or other social ills in the original Colonies,later States ? Or were those things thought to be properly a matter for those involved and local officials?
A “cleryman,” what is that?
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He would probably be more kind to you than a shrink. You'd wouldn't like what the shrink would tell you.
Most of those perverts need therapy themselves... (I wouldn't want to end up like you anyway.)
My mistake, clergyman. Since you're an atheist that your pick as to the denomination.
It sounds as if you've already seen a shrink and didn't like what he told you. Was it a court appointed visit?
You are misinformed.
Here's a quote from Ronald Reagan in 1975 from a Reason magazine interview.
"If you analyze it I believe the very heart and soul of conservatism is libertarianism. I think conservatism is really a misnomer just as liberalism is a misnomer for the liberals–if we were back in the days of the Revolution, so-called conservatives today would be the Liberals and the liberals would be the Tories. The basis of conservatism is a desire for less government interference or less centralized authority or more individual freedom and this is a pretty general description also of what libertarianism is."
hahahahahah
Like this shill for big gummint (the author of the article) is the first person to EVER call people like me "antisocial".
Well, screw you, you chicken manure sumbit...! If you don't want to be on the road with people like me, take the train or cloister your scaredy cat self in your house. I don't want to be on the road with people like you either, because you all are just GTOs....that's Gigantic Travelling Obstacles for you Pontiac fans.
Maybe if the UK took the people monitoring these speed cameras and set them to monitoring Mosques........
I think you have Liberal confused with Libertarian.
A moderate change in traffic laws in the USA would solve all of this. First of all, semis and anyone towing a trailer must stay in the far right lane unless avoiding an accident. Second, if you are out of the far right lane and someone hits you from behind, it's YOUR FAULT because you weren't going fast enough.
I paid taxes on the income I used to buy my car. I paid taxes on the purchase of my car. I pay taxes on the gas to operate my car. I'll drive it as I see fit and do to it as I please. Kiss my long haired country boy a...... if you don't like it. That's why your eyes only have three degrees of focus, yet your neck will turn 120 degrees.
As for the Libertarian party, the ONLY thing that bothers me about them is the open borders crap. Funny thing you call them Socialists when GWB is expanding Medicare and blowing funds out the door on welfare, when a Libertarian would cut it all out.
Oh, I forgot. You probably think all people who want to catch a buzz without paying through the nose on taxes or getting a Dr. to prescribe are "socialists".
Wuss
WHAT THE HELL IS A "LIBERALTARIAN"?
I have never heard of such a beast. Is it related to a Jackelope? Could it be a Jersey Devil?
Don't get liberals and Libertarians confused just because both might have a joint in their pocket.
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