Jimmy Carter Assumed Same Spy Power As Bush

Sweetness & Light ^ | December 19, 2005 | N/A

[Sam Hill]

Almost immediately after the enactment of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, President Jimmy "the Saint" Carter issued Executive Order #12139:

Foreign Intelligence Electronic Surveillance

By the authority vested in me as President by Sections 102 and 104 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802 and 1804), in order to provide as set forth in that Act for the authorization of electronic surveillance for foreign intelligence purposes, it is hereby ordered as follows:

1-101. Pursuant to Section 102(a)(1) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(a)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

1-102. Pursuant to Section 102(b) of the Foreign Intelligence Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1802(b)), the Attorney General is authorized to approve applications to the court having jurisdiction under Section 103 of that Act to obtain orders for electronic surveillance for the purpose of obtaining foreign intelligence information.

1-103. Pursuant to Section 104(a)(7) of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978 (50 U.S.C. 1804(a)(7)), the following officials, each of whom is employed in the area of national security or defense, is designated to make the certifications required by Section 104(a)(7) of the Act in support of applications to conduct electronic surveillance:
(a) Secretary of State.
(b) Secretary of Defense.
(c) Director of Central Intelligence.
(d) Director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
(e) Deputy Secretary of State.
(f) Deputy Secretary of Defense.
(g) Deputy Director of Central Intelligence.
None of the above officials, nor anyone officially acting in that capacity, may exercise the authority to make the above certifications, unless that official has been appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

1-104. [Deleted]

1-105. [Deleted]

[Secs. 1-104 and 1-105 amended Executive Order 12036 of Jan. 24, 1978, which was revoked by Executive Order 12333 of Dec. 4, 1981.]

Jimmy Carter
1978

Once more, with feeling:

[T]he Attorney General is authorized to approve electronic surveillance to acquire foreign intelligence information without a court order, but only if the Attorney General makes the certifications required by that Section.

Again, none of this is news, except to the New York Times. And we all know why they are pretending it's new to them.

[Extremely Extreme Extremist]

Jimmah did this? Was disco music playing in the background?

[Carolinamom]

Ping to Carter Use of electronic surveillance

[woofie]

I think a little rabbit told him to do it

[Carolinamom]

Sorry Sam...I meant to ping someone else to your excellent post.

[Texasforever]

This is why I don't put much stock in those on FR that bring up the fact that Bush cannot do certain things because that would set the precedent for democrats to do it too. The democrats have ALWAYS spied on Americans. The democrats will do what they want if and when they regain power. Bush cannot tie his own hands for fear of what democrats will do in the future anyway.

[digger48]

We were able to intercept communications between flying saucers and the mother ship back then?

Farrakan did.

[satchmodog9]

Here is a lib holding the actual coat of arms

[Carolinamom]

Ping....Carter used electronic surveillance w/out a warrent.

[satchmodog9]

Sorry, not a lib on this photo. That was another from my collection.

[Fresh Wind]

Farrakan did.

That doesn't count 'cause he's one of them.

[Chicos_Bail_Bonds]

ping

[princess leah]

Maybe it's time Bush called in Clinton's poker chips and give him a chance to "pay the piper" by writing an op-ed for the NYT stating how he also used executive orders and he wasn't a war president. Although Bush WAS only trying to rehab that reprobate by putting him and his own dad in charge of the tsunami and Katrina disaster funding groups, this might not be a bad time to ask for that favor to be returned! The least he could do is call off the attack dogs in his own party...

[MizSterious]

I've been out and about most of the day, so I missed a lot I'm sure. It doesn't surprise me that this is being brought up; they've been wanting revenge for Clinton's impeachment for a long time. Evil bunch, all of them.

[Peach]

So the great Jimmy Carter used the same powers as Bush and that was okay.

The great Bill Clinton used the same powers as Bush and that was okay.

Bush uses those same powers, post 9/11, with the approval and knowledge of Congress, and the left is talking impeachment.

Okey doke. If Republican Congressmen don't read this site, they had darned better start doing so immediately. Because I am going to be one ticked off freeper if I hear a bunch of lousy Republicans not knowing the facts. Again.

[woofie]

It was different back then ... A Democrat was in office

[silentknight]

Thank god...so that makes it okay?

I think not. Trampling on our rights...is always wrong. There is no excuse for this.

[Psycho_Bunny]

[bnelson44]

What right? They are only going after those who are calling al-Qaeda linked people. You calling people we all should know about?

[CarolinaGuitarman]

But Jimmah wasn't no fascist chimp Republican, so it was just dandy.


/sarc off

[BallyBill]

This whole "spying" dust up must be a Rove plot. I was angry, but I guess it is just another plot to get the Dems on the record as opposing the safety of the American people.