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Creating first synthetic life form
The Globe and Mail ^ | 12/19/05 | CAROLYN ABRAHAM

Posted on 12/19/2005 1:28:07 PM PST by doc30

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1 posted on 12/19/2005 1:28:08 PM PST by doc30
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To: PatrickHenry

science ping for you.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 1:28:41 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: doc30

Ahhhh... to be like God. Then the world will worship me...ME...ME!!!


3 posted on 12/19/2005 1:28:59 PM PST by Paloma_55 (Which part of "Common Sense" do you not understand???)
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To: doc30
This is a false claim...there have been Barbie dolls around for a long time and they were an earlier synthetic life form.
4 posted on 12/19/2005 1:30:23 PM PST by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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To: Paloma_55

Or, in this case, an artificial bacterium...


5 posted on 12/19/2005 1:30:33 PM PST by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Dr. Frankenstein, please call your office.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 1:30:41 PM PST by ladtx ("It is fatal to enter any war without the will to win it." -- -- General Douglas MacArthur)
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To: doc30
They hope to determine the minimum number of genes required to breathe life into an organism.
Sounds like they're aware of Michael Behe's thoughts on irreducible complexity to me.

7 posted on 12/19/2005 1:31:18 PM PST by DallasMike (Call me Dallasaurus)
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To: doc30
Dr. Venter, 59, has since shifted his focus from determining the chemical sequences that encode life to trying to design and build it

Actually Venter is still doing a lot of sequencing. He's beeen sampling ocean waters all over the world and doing shotgun sequencing on the bio-organisms found.

8 posted on 12/19/2005 1:32:44 PM PST by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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...a microbe made from scratch.

Then we'll find out what happens when life ends too.

Don't hold your breath.

9 posted on 12/19/2005 1:34:08 PM PST by onedoug
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To: doc30
It would appear that intelligent designers can create life forms.
10 posted on 12/19/2005 1:35:26 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA (")
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As in inflatable??????


11 posted on 12/19/2005 1:36:33 PM PST by showme_the_Glory (No more rhyming, and I mean it! ..Anybody got a peanut.....)
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M. genitalium?

I bet this bacterium gets nothing but snickers at microbe cocktail parties.
12 posted on 12/19/2005 1:37:16 PM PST by CzarNicky (The problem with bad ideas is that they seemed like good ideas at the time.)
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The funny part will be when certain persons claim that our ability to design life proves naturalistic evolution.


13 posted on 12/19/2005 1:38:25 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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M. genitalium? I bet this bacterium gets nothing but snickers at microbe cocktail parties.

Actually, it gets applause. Or more precisely, the clap.

14 posted on 12/19/2005 1:39:36 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Liberals have hijacked science for long enough. Now it's our turn -- Tom Bethell)
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"But the way biology works, you need the organism to make the genome."

Hmmm. Exactly what creationists have been endlessly pointing out.

But of course, intelligent design CAN'T POSSIBLY be science! (sarcasm)


15 posted on 12/19/2005 1:40:02 PM PST by Elpasser
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To: doc30
An interesting article, a key point of which is summed up in this comment:

"So the profound problem is what do you do with this DNA once you get it? How do you turn it into an actual organism? You need the genome to encode and make the organism. "But the way biology works, you need the organism to make the genome."

The point being that DNA is not, in itself, sufficient to the question of how life began: you also need to explain how the rest of the organism -- needed to decode and act on the information in the DNA -- came about. Even at the cellular level we're faced with a "systems" problem that needs to be explained.

16 posted on 12/19/2005 1:40:54 PM PST by r9etb
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Several scientific groups are trying to make genes that do not
exist in nature, in hopes of constructing microbes that
perform useful tasks


Well, if they do make a living entity...I hope they don't make
a mis-step that accidentally makes something that outdoes the 1918 flu.

I'm sort of suprised at the seemingly cavalier attitude
around this project. I hope the work is really being done in
conditions that would totally contain (or auto-destruct) if
they find out "what's the worst that could happen?".

In the late 1980s some scientists hoped to "build" a bacterial pathogen
in hopes of understanding the basis of pathogenesis in an bacterium
or fungus harmful to plants.
That group got an extreme scolding and were shut down.
(unless they went dark doing the work for the guvmint...)
17 posted on 12/19/2005 1:41:11 PM PST by VOA
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To: showme_the_Glory
As in inflatable??????

Naw, A silicon based life form would be more realistic.


18 posted on 12/19/2005 1:41:46 PM PST by ASA Vet (Those who know don't talk, those who talk don't know.)
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But of course, intelligent design CAN'T POSSIBLY be science! (sarcasm)

My lawn sprinkler proves that natural rain is impossible. In fact, since all human sprinkers are attached to a pipe or hose, this proves rain must be caused by an intelligent being with a large hose, up in the sky.

19 posted on 12/19/2005 1:43:15 PM PST by Right Wing Professor (Liberals have hijacked science for long enough. Now it's our turn -- Tom Bethell)
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20 posted on 12/19/2005 1:43:48 PM PST by PatrickHenry (... endless horde of misguided Luddites ...)
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