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1 posted on 12/19/2005 12:49:36 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Yeah, you're right - I don't understand Islam Extremism.

I also don't understand what would prompt millions of Germans to gas 12 million people nor do I want too. I don't always need to look at "the other point of view" to recognize something as evil.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 12:52:54 PM PST by Tzimisce
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Many Muslim advocates say they have repeatedly condemned terrorism since Sept. 11, yet they are still criticized because their denunciations are insufficient or overly qualified. "We're speaking up, but people aren't hearing us," Al-Marayati said. "The problem is not in the message, but in the reception."

This rings hollow. The problem is the message: "Islam is a peaceful religion. We condemn terrorism BUT ..."

The fact remains that 1.3 billion Muslims still can't (or won't) control a few thousand "extremists".

3 posted on 12/19/2005 12:58:23 PM PST by manwiththehands ("Merry Christmas .... and Happy New Year ... you can take your seat now ...")
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...and we [Muslims] are the only ones who can effectively counter it...

Don't you bet on it.

4 posted on 12/19/2005 1:00:44 PM PST by LibWhacker
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"We're speaking up, but people aren't hearing us," Al-Marayati said. "The problem is not in the message, but in the reception."

No, there is the problem. The Muslim community is not truly willing to accept any responsibility for the situation. Our hearing is fine, perhaps the message is a little weak.

6 posted on 12/19/2005 1:06:16 PM PST by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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"My sense is that people feel the extremist ideology needs to be countered, and we [Muslims] are the only ones who can effectively counter it," said Salam Al-Marayati...

You've had decades to counter it, Mr. Al-Marayati. Your time is running out. Clean house quickly or have it cleaned while you wait.

10 posted on 12/19/2005 1:18:11 PM PST by Prime Choice (We are RepubliCANs, not RepubliCAN'Ts.)
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"The problem is not in the message, but in the reception"

Actually the problem is the people making such statements seem to think the relevant audience for them is the rest of us in America and the west. We don't have a problem, we don't need your messages. Excusing yourselves and defending yourselves in our direction is useless. The audience is internal to Islam, the potential recruits of the extremists. Unless you are forcefully reaching them and yanking their heads around, you aren't doing jack. They are the ones with the problem, not us. It is not about defending Islam. Islam as it stands today cannot be defended. It is about changing it, purging it, cleansing it of evil heretics and bigots and criminals. Until you take out your garbage, nothing you say to the rest of us will make the slightest impression.

11 posted on 12/19/2005 1:19:02 PM PST by JasonC
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"We are at a crossroads," he said.

Begin with : STOP calling them Americans .
There is more to being an American than popping out of your mommie on our soil....
The law needs to be changed . This is not the old days when anybody that straggled off the boat was instantly a citizen.
The perception that these fools deserve to be called Americans
is totally and completely wrong and the Dem Party buys into it
100%
12 posted on 12/19/2005 1:27:44 PM PST by injin (To retreat before victory would be an act of recklessness and dishonor, and I will not allow it." W)
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Excremism stinks. But, as usual, one's own stuff doesn't stink, or at least stinks less than that of others.


16 posted on 12/19/2005 4:48:39 PM PST by GSlob
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