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The Virginians
NEWSWEEK ^ | Dec. 26, 2005 - Jan 2, 2006 issue | Howard Fineman

Posted on 12/19/2005 9:18:21 AM PST by SirLinksalot

The Virginians

Want to know how the campaigns ahead will unfold? Look to the Old Dominion, where two rising stars offer competing models for how to succeed with Southern voters.

As young men in law school in the 1970s, neither Mark Warner nor George Allen set the legal world on fire. At Harvard, Warner founded a group called the Somerville Bar Review—that's "bar" as in drinking studies, not professional ones. "I was the only guy I knew who didn't get law-firm offers after summer internships," he says. At the University of Virginia, Allen lived in a cabin on the mountaintop next to Thomas Jefferson's Monticello. But the scenery did more to inspire a passion for deer hunting than textbook reading; his mud-spattered truck was a rare sight in the law-school parking lot. "I probably didn't fit in real well," he says.

But then, as immigrants to Virginia, both men spied their main chance in 1982—and took it. Searching for a big financial score, Warner heard through a friend that Atlanta TV mogul Ted Turner had become interested in an infant technology called "cellular" phones. "My law buddies asked, 'Who is going to want to talk on a phone in their car?' " Answer: everyone. He amassed a fortune, bought a mansion in the northern Virginia suburb of Washington and began plotting his entry into politics as a Democrat. Allen, the son and namesake of the Hall of Fame football coach, saw the opening he needed to launch his political career when the state redrew the lines and the rules for electing the House of Delegates. The new plan carved out a district consisting almost exclusively of rural countryside near Charlottesville—the very woods Allen had been tramping through, thinking conservative Republican thoughts. He ran, and won by 25 votes.

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TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 2008; allen2008; fineman; georgeallen; markwarner; risingstars; virginia; warner2008
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How about this for 2008 : a GEORGE ALLEN -- CONDI RICE TANDEM ?
1 posted on 12/19/2005 9:18:22 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: SirLinksalot

isnt mark warner the former democratic governor? john warner is the republican.


2 posted on 12/19/2005 9:21:13 AM PST by philsfan24
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To: SirLinksalot

I want to know how Mark Warner qualifies as a 'rising star of the GOP.) He's a Dem who crammed through (with help from RINOs) the biggest tax hike in Virginia history, due to the Commonwealth supposedly being broke. Of course, we found out two weeks later that Virginia wasn't only not broke, the state was running a $900M surplus for the year.


3 posted on 12/19/2005 9:24:34 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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To: SirLinksalot
When the looney left gets a hold of Warner, he'll sink faster than he rose.
4 posted on 12/19/2005 9:24:34 AM PST by b4its2late (Eye souport publik edekashun two.)
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To: b4its2late

The headline is not on the article, so perhaps the original poster is somehow under the misapprehension that Mark Warner is a Republican.


5 posted on 12/19/2005 9:28:19 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: philsfan24

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isnt mark warner the former democratic governor?
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I made a boo boo. I should have just limited it to George Allen for the GOP.

But Mark Warner is one of the "better" ( note the quotes ) Democrats out there. Hey, if its sHrillary we're stuck with, anyone who looks more reasonable is better.


6 posted on 12/19/2005 9:29:26 AM PST by SirLinksalot
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To: linda_22003

Warner is a dem. Some lib in VA has set up a website to get him and Mrs. Clinton to run as Pres/VP in 2008.


7 posted on 12/19/2005 9:29:48 AM PST by b4its2late (Eye souport publik edekashun two.)
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To: b4its2late

That's a difficult ticket to picture. The two of them would be like oil and water.


8 posted on 12/19/2005 9:31:48 AM PST by linda_22003
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To: SirLinksalot

You make a good point. The GOP had better pay attention to Mark Warner - he will play well in Peoria (or Richmond).


9 posted on 12/19/2005 9:34:45 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .....)
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How about this for 2008 : a GEORGE ALLEN -- CONDI RICE TANDEM ?

For where, Iraq??? Certainly not here in the U.S...

10 posted on 12/19/2005 9:37:29 AM PST by Iscool (Start your own revolution by voting for the candidates the media (and gov't) tells you cannot win.)
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To: SirLinksalot

Not with Condi's recent lecturings to Israel, and her responses to Bill O'Reilly that "we're doing everything we can" to secure our borders. What a load...


11 posted on 12/19/2005 9:40:00 AM PST by DTogo (Merry CHRISTmas, and a healthy & happy New Year!)
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And you know she won't take second fiddle.....
12 posted on 12/19/2005 9:44:56 AM PST by b4its2late (Eye souport publik edekashun two.)
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To: SirLinksalot

My brother came up for Thanksgiving with a "Warner 2008" bumber sticker. Not sure where I put that thing.


13 posted on 12/19/2005 9:46:18 AM PST by elc
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To: SirLinksalot

Mark's apparent threat to Hillary is that the media will portray him as whatever and whomever he wishes too.
But the Dem pols know that's true of any candidate they may offer.

Maybe Hillary will sell him the VP nomination if he puts up enough bucks, and he's got plenty.

14 posted on 12/19/2005 9:59:20 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: SirLinksalot

But Mark Warner is one of the "better" ( note the quotes ) Democrats out there.


I beg to differ. He raised taxes, that weren't necessary. Now the state is running a massive surplus (over $1 billion), and not once has the notion come up to reduce the taxes again, or pay back the money to the tax payers.


15 posted on 12/19/2005 10:18:18 AM PST by VA_Gentleman (Bush's fault pings are tiresome.)
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That is mark warners strength, he is capable of fooling republicans into thinking hes one of the 'better' democrats when hes just as liberal as the rest of his party.


16 posted on 12/19/2005 10:38:02 AM PST by SDGOP
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To: b4its2late

Also, the liberal John Warner defeated the liberal Mark Warner in 1996.


17 posted on 12/19/2005 10:53:34 AM PST by Theodore R. (Cowardice is forever!)
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To: tgusa

My sister works at a voting place in Va Beach and last week got a call to ask if she would work to recount the votes (for atty general I think) and she said she was too busy with Christmas, our 81 yr old mother coming and etc. and then she got another call from someone in Richmond, again asking her to work. She declined. Next she gets a supeona from the court requiring her to work on the recount! Nice a volunteer position gets a court order!


18 posted on 12/19/2005 11:34:03 AM PST by Citizen Soldier
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To: mrsmith

NO! NO! NO! It's GOT to be a picture of James Drury - THE Virginian! What a guy! I had such a crush on him when I was nine. : - ) I still think he is the best looking man I EVER saw.


19 posted on 12/19/2005 11:34:40 AM PST by jackibutterfly
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To: SirLinksalot

It's hard to tell about Warner. He was running for President while he was governor. And his wife will have to change her name if he runs.


20 posted on 12/19/2005 11:39:15 AM PST by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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