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(Vanity) FreeRepublic Folding@Home Project Update (We're in the Top 1,450)
Folding @ Home Stat Page ^ | 12/17/05 | me

Posted on 12/18/2005 10:03:55 AM PST by texas booster

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To: dfwddr
Question.... I added my third box,(each with it's own load of F@H, each runs independently, then through a router, firewall and modem), and now my work has slowed to a crawl.

It's difficult to say really. Some of the WUs are really big and depending on whether your processor supports SSE or not can really affect how long it takes to get a WU done. I know I went a couple days on my first few WUs on all the machines before I started completing faster. It's luck of the draw I suppose. One of my complaints that I posted on the main forum was WU completion time. It would be nice to have progress checkable faster, like RC5-64 or SETI units, etc. The very first WU on one of my two fastest machines (4000+ w2gb ram) took almost 4 days to complete. By the end of that first 7 days, it had done 12.

As to the point figures, I do know enabling large WUs will earn more points, but it's self defeating unless the machine has a pile a ram.

Of course, if they're on the same WUs and doing it slow, I don't know what to say, I've not seen that, just see fast and seen slow and REALLY slow WUs. One user said that something about aborted WUs(out of bounds, bad data, something) that can shut off SSE computation and make it much slower. A reboot and/or a restart of the client will fix it.

81 posted on 12/20/2005 4:35:59 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
Thanks for the reply.

SSE is supported and confirmed by the log. I, like you, started slow, got faster ( 500PPD, 1 machine), now w/ 3 machines, I'm at 100PPD. Weird. None are running the same project, and there are no bandwidth issues. I've got all 3 processors running between 70% and 88% to keep temps from maxing. I have large WU enabled, but none seem to take any RAM I have yet to see a box use more than 25% of installed RAM, with other apps running. Did the reboot deal, no luck.

Guess I'll just wait till the moons realign and try again. I'm going to shut one box down, and see what happens. Makes no sense, but my goal is to increase production, not reduce it.

Again, thanks for your help.
82 posted on 12/20/2005 4:59:17 PM PST by dfwddr (Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.)
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To: dfwddr
I think Malsua summarized it well.

However, what do you mean by your "work has slowed to a crawl"? Are the machines running slower or do the WUs seem to be taking longer to complete?

In my experience so far, you get WUs that F@H thinks your machine can handle within the deadline, unless you've chosen to get WUs without a deadline. I suspect that Stanford's F@H project just doles out WUs as available. It matters most that the WU is completed within the deadline. The point weighting factor should consider your machine's capability plus the complexity of the WU that was processed. I pulled one WU down today that's going to take nearly 4 days to process; hopefully we'll get some good point from it.

83 posted on 12/20/2005 5:55:10 PM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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To: ken in texas
And the fun keeps on coming.

Wow, all the latest folks have REALLY cranked up the pressure. I think QUT_HPC isn't much of a threat at all :). We're already above their daily output and as a few more folks come online, we're gonna leave 'em in the dust!


84 posted on 12/20/2005 6:25:37 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

My first WU on 2 computers was 3750 frames. One computer finished it early this morning, about 36 hours after starting it. The next WU it downloaded was 500 frames. The 3750 frame units were finishing at about 28s/frame. The 500 frame unit is working at 1m30s/frame. Is the protein being "folded" larger, more complex to account for such a slower time?


85 posted on 12/20/2005 7:43:00 PM PST by ican'tbelieveit
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To: Malsua

Lookin' good!! I have 2 WUs finishing within an hour... with all the others that have signed up, the FR team should start overtaking at an even faster rate.


86 posted on 12/20/2005 7:49:12 PM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit; All
Free Republic Folders

Date of last work unit 2005-12-20 19:08:15
Active CPUs within 50 days 84
Team Id 36120
Grand Score 145873 (certificate)
Work Unit Count 1115 (certificate)
Team Ranking (incl. aggregate) 1372 of 41779
Home Page http://www.freerepublic.com
Fast Teampage URL http://fah-web.stanford.edu/teamstats/team36120.html

87 posted on 12/20/2005 8:01:57 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: systematic
Team members
Rank
(within team)
User Score WU
1 Compaq_Owner 20191 144
2 Texas_Booster 19536 149
3 Dads_AMD3000 18445 64
4 Compaq_Owner3 12397 104
5 Malsua 7315 47
6 T_Admin 6796 53
7 bubba_sales 6538 52
8 Ken_in_Texas 5545 24
9 Jim 5173 40
10 Uriah 4976 42
11 Tony1 3599 25
12 Weasel 2512 22
13 Steve_Wilson_1 2460 22
14 ENDUSER_Michael 2298 16
15 Chesterbelloc 2042 17
16 dfwddr 1944 31
17 kenth 1914 20
18 Vern_1 1705 14
19 Brian_Admin 1649 12
20 Compaq_Owner_David 1476 13
21 BoT 1432 74
22 Kingu 1240 9
23 susan 1141 10
24 Hawkeyes_Girl 1064 6
25 David_G_1 990 8
26 Tactical 970 6
27 Kevin_Inspiron 952 6
28 Trax_Admin 848 7
29 umbagi 701 8
30 VAcharonD1 600 1
31 FourtySeven 560 5
32 Big_Bobs_FTW_1 549 3
33 David_Griffith 453 4
34 A.Hun 422 3
35 rach_FR 412 2
36 Professional_Engineer 383 3
37 cgk 334 3
38 Vladimir_F 287 10
39 xeniast 287 2
40 Tami 275 2
41 ArgentCent 241 1
42 sshultz460 206 1
43 Drachenfels 206 1
44 ShakeNJake 206 1
45 Mount_Athos 201 2
46 CPQ_1700 197 2
47 mediamole 193 2
48 Jinx 184 4
49 Michael_K 182 1
50 sales_don 182 1
51 HangThemHigh 182 1
52 Flyer_FR 182 1
53 dangermouse 182 1
54 Heil_Dad 171 3
55 vidi 166 1
56 LSimpson 134 1
57 VICI 106 1
58 fzx12345 93 1
59 Veni 48 1
60 ChadGore 48 1
61 Hoplite 46 1
62 RetroSexual 46 1
63 Becky1 41 1
64 jarod_1 19 1

88 posted on 12/20/2005 8:02:32 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: ican'tbelieveit
Is the protein being "folded" larger, more complex to account for such a slower time?

Don't take my word for it, but just realize this is what I've read. To fold ONE protein would require a single, new, fast computer 30 years. The units per depend on how large the team scientifically determines what makes scientific sense.

I dunno what that means. I do know that at this point, some are alot, some aren't so much. In the end, it may be one of us FREEPERS that solves alhzheimers. I think that's fantastic.

89 posted on 12/20/2005 8:08:39 PM PST by Malsua
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To: ken in texas

My first WU had 500 frames, and it took about 2 days to complete. The second one had 400 frames. The frames themselves took much faster, and it finished the project in a few hours. Now, I have a 5000 frame WU, and it's not expected to finish until April!


90 posted on 12/21/2005 4:35:09 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: fzx12345

re. the WU that won't finish until April... had it just started processing when it gave that date? If so, I've found that the WU needs to crunch for a while before the time estimates become accurate. Once a sufficient number of frames have been processed, things start to converge and then you can start believing what it says.


91 posted on 12/21/2005 6:22:04 AM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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To: ken in texas

Now that it's at 87/5000 (est.) it now looks like it's going to take about 6 days. It seems like it estimates 30 minutes per frame first. For my PIII running on the TINKER core, that is about correct, for my P4, that's a gross overestimate. I'm going to pull a K6-2 out of the attic later and see how that does on the timeless rounds. That one might have a WU that takes three months.


92 posted on 12/21/2005 6:40:43 AM PST by fzx12345 (Three lefts don't make a right; they invent one.)
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To: fzx12345

I tried a K6-2 (500MHz) last week... it was agonizingly slow, plus the graphics card is so old that the display from the FAH client was virtually unreadable. I ended up pausing the WU and transferred it to another machine.


93 posted on 12/21/2005 6:56:53 AM PST by ken in texas (Can't afford a tagline... please send money.)
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To: ken in texas

Over 6,000 points in the last 24 hours!!


94 posted on 12/21/2005 7:38:28 AM PST by soccer_maniac (www.polipundit.com -- Elections and politics with a Conservative bent.)
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And here's some our latest conquests, urk, ok, uhm, someone we're going to smoke...wait, that came out wrong. Lessee, we're going to leave them behind us. Ok, that'd be a bad thing. Hmm, well, how about someone we're better than?


95 posted on 12/21/2005 2:40:26 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
Seems they do a lot of work without accomplishing much. LOL

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96 posted on 12/21/2005 5:04:47 PM PST by dfwddr (Be careful about reading health books. You may die of a misprint.)
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To: dfwddr


With luck we'll put them, ahem, safely behind us by 10 minutes after the hour when the stats update.


97 posted on 12/21/2005 6:01:34 PM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

We have 90 computers folding for Team FreeRepublic!


98 posted on 12/21/2005 6:37:10 PM PST by systematic (Folding@Home for Team FreeRepublic (Team# 36120))
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To: systematic
We have 90 computers folding for Team FreeRepublic!

Yeah, pretty cool! I'm holding reserve yet, when we hit a wall, I've got more in me yet :). That said, Freerepublic needs to get more folks on board. 90 of 100,000 users? Pathetic! C'mon all yee freepers, let's make FR soar!

It'd be nice if we talk to the top few that now have zero for 50 days...why did they stop?

-Mal

99 posted on 12/21/2005 6:45:31 PM PST by Malsua
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To: ken in texas
plus the graphics card is so old that the display from the FAH client was virtually unreadable

Ken, I've got a couple old GFX cards, Geforce 2mx, geforce 4400 and I think a TI4200 laying around. If you got an AGP slot, I'd send you a card if you want(no cost, any address you want). Shrug. It's junk to me, will hit the dumpster when I clean out my computer cart. Freepmail me if you're interested.

100 posted on 12/21/2005 6:56:49 PM PST by Malsua
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